That speaks volumes

 

AMS runs 168.6mph in the quarter.
BR runs 169.59 mph in the quarter.

but I think AMS has a quicker time.. although BR still uses a 2.0 liter, and AMS is a destrocked 2.4 block with a 2.0 crank to make 2.1 liter disp. I think theBR car is much heavier...

 

actually we are both over 170mph now With buschur being a tad faster and us being quicker. The Buschur car is not much heavier...for all we know it could be lighter than ours.

We have run Several 8 sec passes (8 or 9 I beleive now). If I am not mistaken since we ran our 8.97 we have consistently run an 8 sec pass each time after that the car was taken to the track. I am not sure how many Buschur has run.

Eric

 

Hi Eric,
I have to say that Iv'e driven my car 9,000 plus miles at 29psi min and monitor closely everything I can.
I know that David Buschur will stand behind me on my build.I had made the trip 4 times to ohio 10 hours each way.My car still runs perfect and is yet to miss a beat.
I am very happy with my car.
As far as risks go Buschur has from what I see has tryed and tested/made everything to make the evo perform better and better everyday.Sooner or later 500 or 600 whp has happen on pump gas or what ever fuel.With the right combination of parts and tuning Buschur has taken for the evo has proven to be great.
I would like to also say that you have built a beautiful car for Sharkbite,love the carbon fiber roof to!
I personally have bought from you carbon driveshaft, radiator kit's,motor mounts injectors and so on have been no problem and you hooked me up when I needed another radiator.My experience dealing with AMS has been good.
Sharkbite and myself made the descion to go with Buschur/AMS because of their reputation for building tuning great cars and would only expect the best from the guys that work it together!

 

[QUOTE=DynoFlash;5397351]Paul

When I started in the Evo scene some 5 years ago I knew of David Buschur as one of my heros of Import drag racing. Of course he was racing in the scene back in the day with all the pioneers of Import Drag racing, guys who have been doing this a lot longer than you or I and who have been there done that on what you and I are doing now - and then some.

It was always my dream to have the opportunity to be a member of the Buschur Team - if only with a very small role. Since I have been working with David I have found him to be a very honest and stand up guy and a person who is a loyal and good friend.



didn't you used to run alot of ams parts. i remember back in '03 or early '04 you were at their shop for a tuning trip. you tuned mine and alot of other cars and bought a bunch of pizza, it was a good time. but if i remember right you also stocked up on a ton of ams parts. turbo kit even?

 

Forget it.

 

forget this one too.

If you guys truly want a pissing match please call me. I had nothing to do with whatever anger you guys (AMS) have right now and I am not going to ruin the relationship we have, unless that is some odd goal of yours.

440-839-1900.

 

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I foundly recall my days visiting AMS and all the great people I met there. Not to mention the great pizza.

At the time, I had driven my Evo from CT to NJ - won an import race - drove down to DC then TN and then up to Chicago - all with my crazy Bichon dog with me it was a great adventure. At this time I was trying to show case the reliability of my car at a significant power level.

At the time I had just started to use the AEM on my car and I remember Martin and myself driving on some back roads in the rain doing some data logs and tuning adjustments.

BTW - I was the first to go 9's on a AMS GT35 Turbo kit - way back a few years ago. I won a lot of races with that set up and I also got a lot of magazine coverage for the AMS parts back in those days with several cover features.

I have nothing against AMS or its parts. AMS fabricates some great stuff for evos and they are certainly capable of doing some great work.

As I progresed in my racing career, and I needed better and higher performing parts and bigger turbos to go even faster, I got the feeling that AMS did not want to work with me so I moved onto other companies like Sherarer, Buschur and others for my race car needs and now at this point I have no AMS parts left on my car.

I hope that answers your question

Al

 

So all you are clear. I called Martin and him and I spoke. There are some behind the scene problems I didn't know about. WE (AMS AND BUSCHUR RACING) are NOT going to continue with this mess.

If you guys would like to have an intelligent discussion about tuning for pump gas and such I will do what I can to add information. My additions may not be the most technical as I am stupid but I will add what I can.

Thanks for taking the time to talk about this stuff Martin.

 

Thats respect.
You guys are both at the forefront of this industry and much deserved in your (BR & AMS) achievements.

 

Thank you Dave

We have no issues with Dave or Buschur racing. I think a few people were spinning it that way and some of the posts were coming off that way but the main purpose of this thread and Martin's post was to inform people that its not that we don't know how to make this big power on pump gas, we just don't feel it in our customers best interest.

I think it would be nice to see this thread stay open as Dave said and really get into the pro's and con's of this subject. I'm sure many members would really like to hear both sides.

So to reiterate, AMS and Buschur still have a lot of respect for each other.

Eric

 

AMS... for your average customer car which is fully built, no expense spared, and runs a 35 or 37R... what hp atw do you generally achieve on 93 octane? From what I have seen it is around 420 ATW. Now could these same customer cars be tuned for a 100 hp atw more without hearing or seeing any knock?

My question is... are you simply leaving 100 hp atw on the table for safety margin or are you actually hearing knock when tuning and that is why you stop? Also, what specifically are you concerned with in terms of running more boost on these types of customer cars? Are you concerned about high EGT? Because apart from increased EGT, I can't see the difference in safety between 23 psi and 28 psi if both have a equal margin of safety in terms of degrees of advance away from det.

 

Not being 'technical' is not an indication of stupidity. You are far from stupid. We are all capable of being stupid if we choose to act that way.

Those who do their best to convince the rest of us that they are truly stupid are those who always have plenty to say, and yet say nothing. I'll leave it at that.

 

Sharkbite and myself made the descion to go with Buschur/AMS because of their reputation for building tuning great cars and would only expect the best from the guys that work it together
Just had to repeat myself