506whp Stock IX turbo E85
1. For the ETS 5" FMIC, was any trimming, cutting, etc. needed in order for it to fit properly?
Yes, the bumper needed some extensive trimming (the 4" doesn't however) because we not only added the 5' core but 3" piping everywhere as well
2. What are the benefits of using the MAFTPro 3.5bar system and is the AEM EMS mandatory?
It removed the MAF as a potential restriction in the system. In the DSM's using a MAF-Translator or MAFT Pro has shown to be worth 15hp or so. You do not need an AEM to convert to speed density using the Pro. Otherwise the MAF-T will use a GM MAF which is larger and is generally placed in the UCIP removing the restriction pre-turbo
3. What is the "BS" as it was mentioned in the original post that it was removed?
BS refers to the balance shaft
4. What are the benefits of running an electric water pump?
Less hp loss since the belt drag is not present. This was looking for every last bit out of the car. It requires some custom fabrication to work properly so its not just a bolt on and while the car ran with it for 15k so far its streetability still has yet to be proven in my mind. If it can go at least 30 then its not a bad investment. For roadracing though this might not be the answer.
5. Is the BR ported head being used?
No, this is our "Street Version" ported head.
6. What is an intake "spacer"?
A phenolic spacer between the intake manifold and the head to limit heat soak of the intake manifold and ultimately power loss due to intake charge temp increase.
Yes, the bumper needed some extensive trimming (the 4" doesn't however) because we not only added the 5' core but 3" piping everywhere as well
2. What are the benefits of using the MAFTPro 3.5bar system and is the AEM EMS mandatory?
It removed the MAF as a potential restriction in the system. In the DSM's using a MAF-Translator or MAFT Pro has shown to be worth 15hp or so. You do not need an AEM to convert to speed density using the Pro. Otherwise the MAF-T will use a GM MAF which is larger and is generally placed in the UCIP removing the restriction pre-turbo
3. What is the "BS" as it was mentioned in the original post that it was removed?
BS refers to the balance shaft
4. What are the benefits of running an electric water pump?
Less hp loss since the belt drag is not present. This was looking for every last bit out of the car. It requires some custom fabrication to work properly so its not just a bolt on and while the car ran with it for 15k so far its streetability still has yet to be proven in my mind. If it can go at least 30 then its not a bad investment. For roadracing though this might not be the answer.
5. Is the BR ported head being used?
No, this is our "Street Version" ported head.
6. What is an intake "spacer"?
A phenolic spacer between the intake manifold and the head to limit heat soak of the intake manifold and ultimately power loss due to intake charge temp increase.
I went to a few websites searching for GM MAF information. Here's what I found:
http://www.stylintrucks.com/sn.aspx?...FQu-GgodGwZmoA
http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-s...ow-sensor.html
http://www.maperformance.com/gm-maf-sensor-3.0.html
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Pro...uctCode=A18868
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_Car-Tru...newuZ1QQ_sopZ1
http://www.nextag.com/mass-air-flow-...gm/search-html
I basically need to know which combination I need. I understand that I'll have to buy the correct couplers as well. I apologize for the links. I'm a real thorough guy especially when it deals with my car.
http://www.stylintrucks.com/sn.aspx?...FQu-GgodGwZmoA
http://www.cimotorsports.net/motor-s...ow-sensor.html
http://www.maperformance.com/gm-maf-sensor-3.0.html
http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Pro...uctCode=A18868
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/_Car-Tru...newuZ1QQ_sopZ1
http://www.nextag.com/mass-air-flow-...gm/search-html
I basically need to know which combination I need. I understand that I'll have to buy the correct couplers as well. I apologize for the links. I'm a real thorough guy especially when it deals with my car.
John, I appreciate the feedback. I have to be honest with you that one of the things that keeps my morale up in Iraq is how I want to modify my EVO. My wife has given me the go-ahead to do all that I can with the stock IX turbo as long as I stay away from those FP Red thoughts. I'm cool with that. I'm tracking on the ETS 4" FMIC. My other option is the BR race FMIC. Does the ETS FMIC need a different LICP as its BR counterpart? I read through the English Racing website about the Magnus intake manifold. Can I use this on the stock ECU? The reason that I'm asking is that I've been looking into the Shearer, Wilson v2.3, and AMS VSR manifolds respectively. For the MAFT discussion, basically I have to purchase the larger GM MAF and call it a day, right? I'm tracking about the balance shaft. I'll be keeping mine on as I daily drive my car. I think I better leave my water pump in as well. Where can I get a hold to one of those intake spacers? My plans other than what I've shared already are to run the Kelford 272s with springs/retainers along with E85. I have a station less than five miles from my house.
The BR uses a bespoke LICP that does not interchange with any of the "standard" intercooler designs (meaning stock style). The Magnus has been used on 2 cars that we have personally tested and both had a stock ECU and MAF, no other modifications. The intake spacer is something we carry (not listed on the site yet) so you can get that from us. The water pump is a good idea for a street car, but the balance shaft is a ticking time bomb so if you can put up with a little vibration at idle its well worth it. To be honest I dont really notice it in cars that arent equipped with a balance shaft anymore. Everything else sounds good with the setup.
As far as the GM MAF, its pretty simple really, its just the 3" MAF from days gone by. That and the translator are some easy power, though it can be a little finicky in wet weather or extremely cold weather.
The BR uses a bespoke LICP that does not interchange with any of the "standard" intercooler designs (meaning stock style). The Magnus has been used on 2 cars that we have personally tested and both had a stock ECU and MAF, no other modifications. The intake spacer is something we carry (not listed on the site yet) so you can get that from us. The water pump is a good idea for a street car, but the balance shaft is a ticking time bomb so if you can put up with a little vibration at idle its well worth it. To be honest I dont really notice it in cars that arent equipped with a balance shaft anymore. Everything else sounds good with the setup. As far as the GM MAF, its pretty simple really, its just the 3" MAF from days gone by. That and the translator are some easy power, though it can be a little finicky in wet weather or extremely cold weather.
I've been looking at this particular part and wanted to get your weigh-in and opinion.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...ml#post6617365
I understand about the GM MAF and intake spacer requirements. The ETS FMIC is certainly a plus now as I never fully understood the logic with having to buy a "special" LICP and certainly didn't feel it a wise purchase. Bottom line, I should remove the balance shaft and go with an electric-style water pump?
Balance shaft yes, electric water pump I wouldnt do unless you are looking for that last 10 hp. I would leave that for last. The intake manifold will work great as we have personally tested these on numerous stock and stock appearing turbos and havent had any losses at any point in the powerband.
Balance shaft yes, electric water pump I wouldn't do unless you are looking for that last 10 hp. I would leave that for last. The intake manifold will work great as we have personally tested these on numerous stock and stock appearing turbos and haven't had any losses at any point in the powerband.
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