Forced Performance Evo Red Turbo data
I would like to see a green vs. red on stock bottom end and head (except for cams) with all the bolt-ons at 91-93 octane and also on meth at higher (26-30psi)... Seems like this is the major comparison everybody is waiting for
I can see that you choose to interpret what I say in your own twisted logic, so let me clarify since you seem to be missing something. What I meant was that particular car had a 3076 that maxed out at 500whp on that particular build with the parts he chose and the tuning decisions he made. I did NOT say that all 3076s max out at 500whp period.
I even invited you to show some examples. Come on big boy, let's see a few 3076s that "crush" the red over 7krpm.
Our last debate concluded with you looking like an idiot as well, so I'm not sure what you mean. But please keep that in PM or start a new thread (if you require public humiliation).
My point exactly, in fact they use almost mirror-imaged compressor wheels, so unless one had a completely botched turbine (which they don't), neither is going to "crush" the other at any rpm.
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I can see that you choose to interpret what I say in your own twisted logic, so let me clarify since you seem to be missing something. What I meant was that particular car had a 3076 that maxed out at 500whp on that particular build with the parts he chose and the tuning decisions he made. I did NOT say that all 3076s max out at 500whp period.
I even invited you to show some examples. Come on big boy, let's see a few 3076s that "crush" the red over 7krpm.
Our last debate concluded with you looking like an idiot as well, so I'm not sure what you mean. But please keep that in PM or start a new thread (if you require public humiliation).
I can see that you choose to interpret what I say in your own twisted logic, so let me clarify since you seem to be missing something. What I meant was that particular car had a 3076 that maxed out at 500whp on that particular build with the parts he chose and the tuning decisions he made. I did NOT say that all 3076s max out at 500whp period.
I even invited you to show some examples. Come on big boy, let's see a few 3076s that "crush" the red over 7krpm.
Our last debate concluded with you looking like an idiot as well, so I'm not sure what you mean. But please keep that in PM or start a new thread (if you require public humiliation).
Hey jacka$$. I'm done educating you since you just can't seem to 'agree to disagree' with-out turning the discussion into a slugfest. As I recall and others can as well as long as they can read your last posts to me consisted of retarded logic of increased manni voume 'never ever' being good for turbo applications-- You got shut down on that logic pretty quickly. Now you are here telling the world that 2 turbo's with the same compressor wheels will respond the same above 7k-- even IF one turbo has a larger compressor housing AND is running an equal length exhaust manni AND is running larger a/r turbine.
Are you 4kin dense or something? Did you go to school for any period of time and learn anything? Before you put your foot in your mouth I suggest that you use SEARCH-- it's your friend.
Since you haven't gotten past 360awhp yet, please take the back seat when adults are speaking. You are much better off.
Didn't you learn anything from my last link to Full race's research. The same turbo picked up 63hp from nothing more than an exhaust manifold/tune. The highlight of the RED is that it's a bolt-on application with quick spool. It makes gobbs of power and it is a much more desireable turbo. Turbo logic 101 tells you that you can't have your cake and eat it to.
So now you want me to find you a link that shows a garrett gt3076r outperforming a brand new turbo that has been released in less than 1 week, that was tested by the world's greatest 4g63 shop-Buschur- on a 9 sec capable stage 3 built motor- oh yeah and of course driven by the guy who drives the worlds fastest (155+mph) evo street car? And just what data where you looking for, since the info is right in front of you and you still can't see it?
I won't be responding to you anymore. I don't do 'internet slugging'. It's beneath me. I tried to respect others by ignoring your previous posts since this was getting off topic, but you felt the need to wake up this morning and not watch the Flinstones like other good little boys,,, instead you want to get online and argue with grown men. Put an end to this. You sound like a 4kin idiot.
Nuff said. I'm done.
My apologies to everyone else for the bs.
so why dont you guys start a thread and argue there as this thread is called "forced performance evo red turbo data" not "*****ing and arguing"
basically, the evo red will make very good power all across the board, more top end than the evo green for sure, but we don't know for sure if it'll make as much as a 3076 because that is a bigger compressor housing and just a bigger turbo overall, so it has more top end potential, with the sacrifice of lag of course
thanks
basically, the evo red will make very good power all across the board, more top end than the evo green for sure, but we don't know for sure if it'll make as much as a 3076 because that is a bigger compressor housing and just a bigger turbo overall, so it has more top end potential, with the sacrifice of lag of course
thanks
Are you done lol???^^ I havent seen you "educate" anyone lmao...just get on here and whine and make claims that you cant even back up. I would love to see a 3076 even on a built stroker with an aem "CRUSH" the red....how many lbs/hr does a 3076 flow hmmm? I bet it isnt much if anymore than the red. An FP3065 is a 65lb turbo and it outflows a 3076....thats simple math in my book and I am mediocore with math at best lol Go buy a 3076 if you think it is som much...especially when price is a factor.
Buschur tested the HTA3076 on his RS a while back. It put down 504whp/462ftlb torque. That was on 31-32psi. I don't know if that's completely maxed out, but I bet it's close.
Here's a link to the thread you are speaking about. I love sharing info- I hate arguing.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...uschur+HTA3076
so why dont you guys start a thread and argue there as this thread is called "forced performance evo red turbo data" not "*****ing and arguing"
basically, the evo red will make very good power all across the board, more top end than the evo green for sure, but we don't know for sure if it'll make as much as a 3076 because that is a bigger compressor housing and just a bigger turbo overall, so it has more top end potential, with the sacrifice of lag of course
thanks
basically, the evo red will make very good power all across the board, more top end than the evo green for sure, but we don't know for sure if it'll make as much as a 3076 because that is a bigger compressor housing and just a bigger turbo overall, so it has more top end potential, with the sacrifice of lag of course
thanks
Thank you so much for reading between the lines. We are all just discussing theory here and that is my opinion.
I think TedB said something very on point...
All else being equal, improving intake flow while relieving exhaust pressure/reversion at the same time reduces combustion charge temps, which reduces the detonation threshold - all at the same indicated manifold pressure. This illustrates why intake manifold pressure alone is of limited value without knowing exh manifold pressure.
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I've already tuned my 10.5t evo8 turbo-- loved the response but not enough "push" on the road for my taste.
I've already tuned my gt3076r-- nice pick up in power on pump gas (433awhp on pump 93) , but for the added lag I'd rather have a bigger "push".
And now I'm in the process of tuning my 35r (506awhp on 93 pump).
Had this turbo been available sooner it would have been my turbo of choice. Stock appearing, tons of airflow, and no added price/fabrication to install. Dynocharts don't mean everything.
I continue to watch trent's results at the track and root for him to touch 9's with this new set-up.
