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Old Sep 26, 2008, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fathouse
What boost?
32 psi

I had it tunned for longevity.....
Old Sep 26, 2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by h22gordo
So has nobody else here heard of the problems associated with the FP Red?

I've heard of several people having major problems with their FP Red here in So. Cal. alone. A few local guys can't even spin their compressor wheels anymore! Seized FTL.

I haven't heard of any problems with the Green, but I have heard several problems with the Red's. Go for the green!
They only had problems cos they were running the stock oil feed line...FP has already addressed the problem and its not a problem from the turbo...also it was only 1 person from Cal.....I did 379 on a low reading MD like buschurs on a stock IC....GO RED
Old Sep 26, 2008, 09:54 PM
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^ So is there some sort of aftermarket oil feed line for it? What's required for the install?
Old Sep 26, 2008, 09:59 PM
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well i am happy with my BR3065...

Dyno Dynamics uncorrected, 23psi, pumpgas, Cossie M2s, 780's stock ecu... The big advantage is that i can go to an HTA35R easily...



Thats almost 50 awhp from my stock EVO IX turbo (300-305awhp depending on the day...

A Green on my setup would make around 320awhp a red maybe 10-15 more at the same boost pressure? and i dont think it would keep the power up to the rev limiter... and forget higher boost pressures... Its simple.... size matters....

FYI i will be upgrading to an HTA after Xmas...
Old Sep 26, 2008, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kouzman
well i am happy with my BR3065...

Dyno Dynamics uncorrected, 23psi, pumpgas, Cossie M2s, 780's stock ecu... The big advantage is that i can go to an HTA35R easily...



Thats almost 50 awhp from my stock EVO IX turbo (300-305awhp depending on the day...

A Green on my setup would make around 320awhp a red maybe 10-15 more at the same boost pressure? and i dont think it would keep the power up to the rev limiter... and forget higher boost pressures... Its simple.... size matters....

FYI i will be upgrading to an HTA after Xmas...
Red 10-15 more? No way dude!! I would have to say a RED would make even more power than you did with the 3065 based on many others results (people achieve 450 WHP on MD's with a RED on e85, and 9sec9 way over 500 I believe).
Old Sep 26, 2008, 10:13 PM
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yes but i am talking 93 octane regular pump...

not e85, not meth, not racegas... I dont know what i would see on these types of gasolines... I have seen similar 3065 setups on meth @ 28psi exceeding 500awhp on a dynojet...

Forget 9sec9s car... it has the best of everything on his car which is a drag car...

i talk pump gas... i haven't seen the numbers that can persuade me that Red is the turbo we all dreamed of... which is almost stock lag and over 410-420awhp on pump at moderate boost levels on stock ecu...
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Originally Posted by SRT-TO-EVO
^ So is there some sort of aftermarket oil feed line for it? What's required for the install?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=371322

FP is doing everything to help there customers fix the problem but its def not a turbo problem but rather the stock oil lines
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Originally Posted by kouzman
yes but i am talking 93 octane regular pump...

not e85, not meth, not racegas... I dont know what i would see on these types of gasolines... I have seen similar 3065 setups on meth @ 28psi exceeding 500awhp on a dynojet...

Forget 9sec9s car... it has the best of everything on his car which is a drag car...

i talk pump gas... i haven't seen the numbers that can persuade me that Red is the turbo we all dreamed of... which is almost stock lag and over 410-420awhp on pump at moderate boost levels on stock ecu...
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=364665

Thats my car your telling me those numbers dont persuade you on 93 pump gas...I DD my car and its a blast....the turbo is the real deal....what lag?? im seeing full boost around 4000 rpms and thanks to the EPM o2 dump it holds boost till redline with no taper and no lag in between shifts....My car is not a full out build car but a basic bolt on car with a stock FMIC!!!

If you want a dyno sheet pm me...
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Originally Posted by kouzman
yes but i am talking 93 octane regular pump...

not e85, not meth, not racegas... I dont know what i would see on these types of gasolines... I have seen similar 3065 setups on meth @ 28psi exceeding 500awhp on a dynojet...

Forget 9sec9s car... it has the best of everything on his car which is a drag car...

i talk pump gas... i haven't seen the numbers that can persuade me that Red is the turbo we all dreamed of... which is almost stock lag and over 410-420awhp on pump at moderate boost levels on stock ecu...
I think it will match or better than 350 on pump as well (on an MD or DD). Remember e85, meth, race gas usually add in the neighborhood of about 50whp on the average car. Sorry just stating from what I've seen on here.
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I had the 3065 and sold it. My friend had a 35HTA cast kit and it spooled as fast as my 3065 cast kit and made more power. 3065 is a thing of the past, IMO. I just cant see anyone justifying a 3065 when there are much better options out there like the RED/CBRD BBK/HTA35R, all for simliar pricing. Unless you are going to get a used one for a steal, then I would advise against it.

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Originally Posted by kouzman
yes but i am talking 93 octane regular pump...

not e85, not meth, not racegas... I dont know what i would see on these types of gasolines... I have seen similar 3065 setups on meth @ 28psi exceeding 500awhp on a dynojet...

Forget 9sec9s car... it has the best of everything on his car which is a drag car...

i talk pump gas... i haven't seen the numbers that can persuade me that Red is the turbo we all dreamed of... which is almost stock lag and over 410-420awhp on pump at moderate boost levels on stock ecu...
Well put. Also might I add I made 426 @ 10.8 AFR's @ 26 psi on crappy 92oct.
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Originally Posted by Nuked
I had the 3065 and sold it. My friend had a 35HTA cast kit and it spooled as fast as my 3065 cast kit and made more power. 3065 is a thing of the past, IMO. I just cant see anyone justifying a 3065 when there are much better options out there like the RED/CBRD BBK/HTA35R, all for simliar pricing. Unless you are going to get a used one for a steal, then I would advise against it.



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Will see how the red holds up to the HTA3065
Old Sep 27, 2008, 11:49 AM
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the red is basically a stock bolt up from the stock stocker right? so it will be cheaper all around...
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Originally Posted by EVO Nit3m4re
the red is basically a stock bolt up from the stock stocker right? so it will be cheaper all around...
Yep.
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Red should spool way before the 3065, looking at that graph he's not seeing full boost until 5K correct? Thats way to late for that kind of power if you ask me, why limit your powerband like that?


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