Buschur Racing doing a start to finish EVO8 build, need input.
Dave definately do the budget build but don't start the budget until the car is up and running like one would brand new. This is not only something tons of Evo owners would love to see but would also be a huge success for Buschur and would surely boost sales even more when people see what can be done with in a reasonable budget. Like most guys in here have said a lot of us build are cars as we go and hope to one day have a full Buschur build but we take it one day at a time. Budget Evo FTMFW. Whoever tossed that idea out there I give a big thumbs up to! Just do what you do best and make the f***er fast.
Dave - my vote goes to what many, many people have said so far. A stroked stock frame turbo! The vast majority of all your famous (your cars and customer cars) have been ***** to the wall high revvin 2.0's. I think a lot of people would like to see a "mild" build from BR with a 2.3 or 2.4 and a red turbo. And do it on the stock ECU like the majority of forum members run!
I think absolutely maximizing the area under the torque curve, and limiting to 7800 RPM. I agree that it should be a 2.3L, we've seen the 2.0L high revvers. Stock ECU for sure, and make use of all the work from the ECUflash forum like gear dependent direct boost control, multiple maps via a switch(pump and E85), Knock CELS, etc...
- 2.3L
- Twin scroll in something smaller than a 35R. Maybe one of Chads hybrid 50 trims or something that spools uber fast and makes the power.
- Stock ECU with all the new ECUflash goodies, twin mapped for pump or E85
- Cams and headwork that maximize spool and response
- 2.3L
- Twin scroll in something smaller than a 35R. Maybe one of Chads hybrid 50 trims or something that spools uber fast and makes the power.
- Stock ECU with all the new ECUflash goodies, twin mapped for pump or E85
- Cams and headwork that maximize spool and response
just borrow mellon's car and paint it white.. lol j/k
No, but really this is something to look forward to. What about once you get your cores and everything.. just keep it stock??
Stock block and internals
Stock ported IM and TB
Stock ECU
Your new suspension, and just go from there.. basically a true stock blocked Evo, rather than a "built" evo. To show what the 4g63 is capable of for a real budget build. Of course an up-graded turbo.. fuel and all that, but just keep the heart of it as it came from the factory.
No, but really this is something to look forward to. What about once you get your cores and everything.. just keep it stock??
Stock block and internals
Stock ported IM and TB
Stock ECU
Your new suspension, and just go from there.. basically a true stock blocked Evo, rather than a "built" evo. To show what the 4g63 is capable of for a real budget build. Of course an up-graded turbo.. fuel and all that, but just keep the heart of it as it came from the factory.
I think your going to make this into a road race car.
Well here are my thoughts,
-Keep it a 2.0L
-Faster than stock spooling turbo that makes power (doesnt have to be hp record breaker)
-Port/Polish everything you that is able to be
-Complete flat underbody
-Tube K-member
-Buschur V band exhaust with bullet and magnaflow or what ever you like but a quiet setup.
-New o2 housing with V-band flange (if you decide to do a modified stock turbo)
Well here are my thoughts,
-Keep it a 2.0L
-Faster than stock spooling turbo that makes power (doesnt have to be hp record breaker)
-Port/Polish everything you that is able to be
-Complete flat underbody
-Tube K-member
-Buschur V band exhaust with bullet and magnaflow or what ever you like but a quiet setup.
-New o2 housing with V-band flange (if you decide to do a modified stock turbo)
Straight Methanol "Not really Race Gas so to speak" 
GT47R, Shearer manifold, 2.0 Block, custom chromoly sub frames in front and rear and all the other Buschur goods. Keep the exterior and interior completly stock along with full weight. Then go out and set the HP record and ET-MPH records.
Chris

GT47R, Shearer manifold, 2.0 Block, custom chromoly sub frames in front and rear and all the other Buschur goods. Keep the exterior and interior completly stock along with full weight. Then go out and set the HP record and ET-MPH records.
Chris
Dave,
There's a ton to be done with the stock ECU that you often wave off and install AEM instantly. ECU-based direct boost control, logging IAT, wideband, and boost, custom knock control, and even big injectors! I run FIC 1050cc injectors on my car on pump gas (and E85, that's why they're there) and with the flick of a switch, I can run either fuel. The car will start, idle, accelerate, and cruise with a full tune for said fuel w/o popping the hood or thinking about a laptop. Doing this stuff has really transformed what I've been able to do with the car as a DD. Two years ago I was dead set on AEM....now it's the last thing on my mind
With that said, do a BBK. You said yourself you like blouch. See what you can do with this thing. Think about your post a few years back, 'an orgasmic combination of parts' focusing on the massive power of a Trevor's E85/green car and how happy you were with it. Think about having that kind of drivability on pump gas, stock ecu.
Why? This is what most of us are aspiring towards. 600whp blows my mind, but it's not what I'm going to do with my car.
There's a ton to be done with the stock ECU that you often wave off and install AEM instantly. ECU-based direct boost control, logging IAT, wideband, and boost, custom knock control, and even big injectors! I run FIC 1050cc injectors on my car on pump gas (and E85, that's why they're there) and with the flick of a switch, I can run either fuel. The car will start, idle, accelerate, and cruise with a full tune for said fuel w/o popping the hood or thinking about a laptop. Doing this stuff has really transformed what I've been able to do with the car as a DD. Two years ago I was dead set on AEM....now it's the last thing on my mind

With that said, do a BBK. You said yourself you like blouch. See what you can do with this thing. Think about your post a few years back, 'an orgasmic combination of parts' focusing on the massive power of a Trevor's E85/green car and how happy you were with it. Think about having that kind of drivability on pump gas, stock ecu.
Why? This is what most of us are aspiring towards. 600whp blows my mind, but it's not what I'm going to do with my car.
I'm not going to rattle off a list of "what I would do"s, because that means I already know about it, and it's probably old hat. I want to see something NEW, or at least different. I am very pleased that you're keeping it a full street car without race gas though, that keeps the layman like me able to relate the results to myself. Keeping the stock ECU further abides by this. People who see results they too can achieve are more likely to become customers
I'll cast another vote for a road race, rally, or other non-drag car. If I were you I'd take this as an opportunity to really round out the stable and already incredible list of accomplishments. You've established a proven successful street/drag formula. Now do the same for other forms of motorsports. You've never been one to follow others' lead, so I expect the same for those applications.
Basically I am saying something new, different, and innovative in terms of the car's intended use, and what you do to get there.
I'll cast another vote for a road race, rally, or other non-drag car. If I were you I'd take this as an opportunity to really round out the stable and already incredible list of accomplishments. You've established a proven successful street/drag formula. Now do the same for other forms of motorsports. You've never been one to follow others' lead, so I expect the same for those applications.
Basically I am saying something new, different, and innovative in terms of the car's intended use, and what you do to get there.
Last edited by hokiruu; Jan 21, 2009 at 09:59 PM.
Stage 1 - stock ECU, Evo 9 turbo, stock internals, emissions compliant
Stage 2 - switch to a red, throw out the emissions stuff and go with forged internals.
Focus on maximizing efficiency instead of just throwing a bigger turbo and more boost at it to make more power.
Stage 2 - switch to a red, throw out the emissions stuff and go with forged internals.
Focus on maximizing efficiency instead of just throwing a bigger turbo and more boost at it to make more power.
Dave, here's another idea for you: keeping the car as stock appearing as possible, make the most amount of power possible. i.e. pop the hood at the local hang-out and show people it's stock, then smoke them with 400whp of badness



