Changed back.

 

I know but it represents somthing, In time it will kind of show how many clutch's made it past 15k. The stock clutch if not abused should last minimum 30k. I think this will help show just how long people's clutch last. Alot of people are not having probs at 8k but will have probs at 10k or so. I mainly want to know how many will make it past 15k. I think this will give a decent showing if everyone participates over time. It could be a year before many of us have over15k. I got mine in feb and only have 3,500k so I don't expect many to have 15 k yet.

 

Sano, this poll is good the way you made it. I agree these options really do make sense and help get a better picture of things.

 

i picked less than 6k... i wanted my clutch to blow though b/c i wanted to get a new one.. i now have the exedy twin plate... but my previous evo had more than 6k miles of clutch abuse and 6k rpm launches... still held great and felt like new...till some *** ran a stop sign

 

Come on all, fill out the poll. At this point that looks like a real bad percentage! If mitsu see's this I hope they feel good about themselves. I hope the percent evens out, for all our sake. But I think this is going to represent a better look at the clutch. Even in sports cars 15k clutch goal is pretty ****ty.

Its sad I would be 100% love with this car if it were not for this one MAJOR problem, and what seems to be a very uncooperative car company. I know that many people I know have been scared off by the pressure plate made of peanut butter, and the clutch made of jelly.

My dealership has been cool so far, my clutch replacement cost me nothing, AS IT SHOULD BE FOR MOST!!! Now I only love my car 98%, damn'it

 

Of course it looks like a really bad percentage, bro. None of us with good clutches can vote unless we have 15k on our cars!!! The car has only been out for a short time.

I don't think its fair that you have "failed at x interval", but only have "15k and still strong". I'd say that 95%+ of Evo owners in the US have less than 15k. To me, this is a good idea, but OF COURSE your results look skewed. The only low mileage people that can even vote in your poll are the ones with smoked clutches. Its like it was designed to look bad.

Maybe remake the poll and if people have problems later, they can change their vote? Right now, your results are skewed horribly.

 

there are other polls that are as you described. People would vote for no probs at 5k and turn around and have probs a little later. As I said this poll could take a while for the results to roll in I don't have it set up to be bad, I have it setup to see how many make it to 15k (which still is not that great). I think this poll will be more accurate than you think.

I hope that 80% make it past 15k, but I doubt that will happen. I am just posting every now and then to get attention, so that everyone gets a chance to vote that can,(people that have burnt clutchs) and (people past 15k with no probs). I hope everyone that has more than 15k and has not had trouble will vote to sway it in the other direction.

I would also like to know just how many evo owners are members on this site. anyone know. that would help my statistics as well. Also can you even change your vote< I have never seen that option

My poll is not skewed it is merely slow to develop.

 

That should be fairly easy to check. I'll tell you for sure, its not a high percentage.

 

mine went out at 2300 miles. Good thing mitsu fixed it.

 

Yes, the easiest way to do this is to total up the number of people who voted for any of the FAILED CLUTCH options and then divide that number into the total number of Evo owners on this forum to get a rough, barely-scientific idea of how many people experienced clutch failures in a given population of Evo owners.

Right now that's 30 divided into _# of Evo owners here_.


Now, my experience with a transmission-related issue (3rd gear clutch pack in the 5spd auto trans was incorrectly machined) with a given vehicle (the Acura CL and TL to be specific) is that the manufacturer claimed the issue was with "less than 2% of the vehicles" but in reality the issue affected all the original transmissions for 2001, 2002, and early 2003 model years (it took two years for them to admit there was an issue and offer a revised transmission which would be put in IF yours failed (or in my case when you are on good terms with your service writer and the master tech and they go ahead and swap it for you).

And there was a HUGE run on transmissions at Acura dealers over the past year as more and more failed (at mileages ranging from less than 1,000 miles to as much as 75,000 miles or more).

So again, you can't say "oh I have xx,xxx miles and my clutch is fine there's no problem" because I know from experience that's irrelevant because the issue can rear its head later in the life of your car than is happening for other people. This is why options for "3k and no problems, 6k and no problems, etc" are pointless.

And more importantly, an issue will always be downplayed by the manufacturer, even a luxury brand with much much better service than Mitsu, so I can only imagine how much fun you guys will have trying to get Mitsu to admit a problem, let alone fix it at THEIR expense. I doubt it will be an enjoyable uphill battle for you, so I suggest reporting each case of clutch failure that is legit (and you know if it is or not since you know how you drove your car) to the NHTSA's website, as well as those with it dying within a couple thousand miles who are refused replacement taking the legal route sinec they'd have a strong case.

That is how it went with the Acura transmission issue, and eventually things came out in favor of the owners - 7yr/100k extended warranty on the trans and TCU (trans control unit which was somehow related as well) sent in the mail to every affected owner (01, 02, early 03s) which was a free replacement - you don't pay labor or parts if it goes out in that timeframe/mileage. On top of that, the revised ones seem to have solved the problem so it was a successful resolution.

 

Also notice that all the failures in this poll have happened by 10k. There are zero in the 10,001-15,000 range. Maybe change the "not failed" number to 10,000 and over? Numerically that looks more fair.

 

Being that most people haven't put more than 10k on their cars, that makes no sense. The longer this poll is around, the more worthwhile that option becomes, so why remove it?

 

Could people with clutch failures also post their built date??
Just wondering if this only affects early EVOs...

 

Wow 6 people already have 15k that seems like alot of miles for a car that has only been out 6 months or so. Where are you people driving to.

 

Just got a phone call from a Mitsu Rep. "The clutch is never covered unless it is defective.... bla bla bla," sounded like they have already decided it is not defective. He also told me to schedule a recall service appointment. I could go on for hours about what BS i think this is, but in the end I 'm still gonna need my car fixed. And I dont trust mitsu anymore, looks like i'll be wrenching on my new ride.