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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Where can I get in touch with them? The website I find by googling is basically not even a website. And their account on here was disabled??

If they still make manifolds I might get one. They had significant gains from what I could tell. About 3x that of a "ported stocker FTW!!!"
I don't think they offer that manifold anymore..but they are in the same building as

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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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How's the PPI and MAP ported stock manifolds compare to the Buschur?? I'm trying to decide between these few. I haven't seen any documented gains from the PPI one, and only very little on MAP.

The general consensus is stick with the Buschur ported stock mani as its proven...

Are there any other updates on this??
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by blkVII
How's the PPI and MAP ported stock manifolds compare to the Buschur?? I'm trying to decide between these few. I haven't seen any documented gains from the PPI one, and only very little on MAP.

The general consensus is stick with the Buschur ported stock mani as its proven...

Are there any other updates on this??
There was a back to back test on Buschur's and Map's and Map's made a bit more power.
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Old Feb 16, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Yeah I remember that but the test was a bit inconclusive or so someone kept saying...

I'm more interested in the PPI vs Buschur. Has there been any testing of PPI's manifold?
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Old May 12, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Great info! Thanks!
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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What manifold would you guys reccomend for a stroker running a black?

Looking for gains in the 4000 ~ 7500rpm region..
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonba
What manifold would you guys reccomend for a stroker running a black? Looking for gains in the 4000 ~ 7500rpm region..



the Stock location Evo manifold is one of our most popular manifolds we build here. excellent quality, perfect TIG welds, and great fitment/performance. we have them in stock too can ship with no wait
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonba
What manifold would you guys reccomend for a stroker running a black?

Looking for gains in the 4000 ~ 7500rpm region..
mona lisa
full race
shearers

take your pick hommie
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Subscribed. Im gonna go with either a Fullrace mani or the new AFI ones.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RockmanX
mona lisa
full race
shearers

take your pick hommie
Best advice yet... Rockman is correct. These are the only three you should consider. Personally, I have the Full Race w/FP Red on a 2.3 MAPerformance built stroker. Upgrading to the FP Black over the winter.

512 HP/478 tq on E-85 w/HKS MIVEC cams... should see over 600 w/FP Black and ER GSC modified cams.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RockmanX
mona lisa
full race
shearers

take your pick hommie
has there been any testing with the mona lisa?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by churchja
I have the Full Race w/FP Red on a 2.3 MAPerformance built stroker. Upgrading to the FP Black over the winter.

512 HP/478 tq on E-85 w/HKS MIVEC cams... should see over 600 w/FP Black and ER GSC modified cams.
wow that is seriously impressive - how do you like the spoolup & response of your current setup? its incredible what these stock frame twinscroll turbos are capable of. also which HKS mivec cam are you using, the 272?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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has there been any testing with the mona lisa?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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A few people that I have talked to now have commented that on the already choking stock style turbo, the full race may not flow enough for a stroker and that larger runners may be required..?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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i respectfully disagree with that. in fact, the larger runners typically lose a lot of midrange powerband, with almost no gain up top.

edit: BTW we use the same diameter on our stock location manifold as we do on our sub 750hp twinscroll t4 dual wg manifold (the stock turbo is a twinscroll dual wg design itself)

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