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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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The best stock replacement manifold is the new ETS twin gate 38mm MVS. This manifold is the only one of its kind and is the best manifold available for the stock appearing turbos. This design eliminates as much pre turbine back pressure as possible. This would be a better mod than the external dump 02 housing. If you guys have any questions, I’m sure Michael from ETS will gladly chime in.

The manifold has not been tested yet, however I may be looking at testing it for Michael. The design of the manifold is a given it will produce amazing gains. It increases the flow potential manifold over the stock casting design and using the twin 38mm MVS gates off the runners allows the exhaust gases to bypass the turbine wheel, lowering the pre-turbine backpressure and allowing the turbo to operate much more efficiently!

I think the Red/Black at 3-40psi would see much higher gains than the stock turbo.

Mikey

Mikey I remember when ETS started making the single External wastegate you wern't a fan. Are you basing this on design? I was interested but the price and no real data has made me watch from afar.

I will more then likely go FPBlack on whatever motor setup I decide to go with and runing E85 well def. put me in the 35 to 40 PSI range so I would love to see if its worth it.

It is bad *** looking.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 11:17 AM
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JM Fab stock replacement Twinscroll mani gets my vote. the shearer, mona lisa, and full race are all in the same category.

the ets looks the best and has great potential to produce power, however requires the welding of the internal WG flapper, so not exactly direct bolt on. regardless im in love with that, so im excited to see some power numbers from it.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Mikey I remember when ETS started making the single External wastegate you wern't a fan. Are you basing this on design? I was interested but the price and no real data has made me watch from afar.

I will more then likely go FPBlack on whatever motor setup I decide to go with and runing E85 well def. put me in the 35 to 40 PSI range so I would love to see if its worth it.

It is bad *** looking.
Correct. I didn't like the design of the single gate manifold they were throwing around. I like Michael and their products greatly but I'll be the first person to voice my opinion. I feel that is manifold is the best! It would ultimately make the stock appearing turbo operate like an aftermarket 3582, only thing being with a smaller housing. That is the reason for the great spool, however backpressure during high boost and high rpms, hurt the 10.5 housing. Using this design manifold w/ Twin 38mm gates, will alleviate a lot of the exhaust gasses from ever reaching the turbine wheel, reducing the horrible back pressure effects that the 10.5 housing is famous of. I think this manifold coupled with a true 3" 02 housing, like I have, would be perfect. I would love to test it for Michael since they don't have any stock appearing cars right now. We will see if he is willing... My car will be at ER for 6 weeks and a perfect time to test

It is very $$$, however there are people willing to play...

Mikey
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKCarbonEVO
The best stock replacement manifold is the new ETS twin gate 38mm MVS. This manifold is the only one of its kind and is the best manifold available for the stock appearing turbos. This design eliminates as much pre turbine back pressure as possible. This would be a better mod than the external dump 02 housing. If you guys have any questions, I’m sure Michael from ETS will gladly chime in.

The manifold has not been tested yet, however I may be looking at testing it for Michael. The design of the manifold is a given it will produce amazing gains. It increases the flow potential manifold over the stock casting design and using the twin 38mm MVS gates off the runners allows the exhaust gases to bypass the turbine wheel, lowering the pre-turbine backpressure and allowing the turbo to operate much more efficiently!

I think the Red/Black at 3-40psi would see much higher gains than the stock turbo.

Mikey
Definately one of a kind...although I wouldn't say its the best or saying it is a better mod than an O2 dump until it is proven.

I am very curious about the results and would consider this is it is proven to be worth the cost.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Here is the forum link:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...astegates.html
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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how much does this mani cost with both twin wastegates?
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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any dyno results comparing different manifolds?
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 05:37 AM
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If that manifold makes the FP Black act like a bigger turbo (IE holds best better to redline) I may reconsider going bigger. I wonder how it would do on pump gas with that mani?
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bbyevo8u
how much does this mani cost with both twin wastegates?
Almost $1700
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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why go through all that with welding up an FP Black's wg flapper and the manifold with dual external wastegates.. doesnt seem to me to make as much sense since you can get a legit twinscroll T4 setup for less $$? Hell if theres demand we can put 2 wastegates on our Evo stock turbo manifold, but id feel bad charging someone for all that when they can just go t4
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Earthen
Im just confused by this..

This manifold looks like the biggest waste of time.. What crap!

Why would you even bother? Just go straight to a TS HTA3582 if your going to this much effort!!
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Megan manifolds starts to crack after awhile. And ported stock.. sucks.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Mona Lisa! And right now there's no wait for them.. Ready to ship tomorrow!
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Mona Lisa! And right now there's no wait for them.. Ready to ship tomorrow!
no wait time the best kind of buy mona lisa FTW
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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i woud get the new mani from toxicfab... you guys should check this out... if monalisa had a sexy sexy sis this wouyld be it. also weighs the same as the stock. made some great numbers over stock you guys should check it out......
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