come on tim pay to play you know the deal. im assuming you have 1300-1500 in cash flow right now. i would say dont buy anything and save up another 600 then see whats going down by then mike will have something to show and you can then compare. There was a guy selling his brand new rebuilt fp black for 1550 why not look into that one im sure he still got it.

 

yea he wanted 1599 but its already sold . My car has been down for a few months and im dying to get it back on the road. Im not sure id ever use the full capability of the black, possibly not even the red. The reds im looking at are new for around 15-1600, If that black was still for sale i probably would of snagged it

 

rock how much did you pay to upgrade yours to black

 

well things come and go i have only seen 3 blacks for sale and all are gone i have seen 2 hta greens for sale. just wait and let mike do this thing before you hope on the red green or bbk full train. you have alittle more time your cars been down already as you stated sooooooooooooooo whats alittle bit longer just to see if the green could do what you want and give you time to save more torwards a black not saying your going to get it but you will have all the information then and can honestly make a easy informed decision on which better suits your needs.

 

500. I traded my brand new fp red that was sitting in my closet for a year in for it but Robert hooked me up instead of upgrading it since i was going to be the first and my red was brand new he just gave me a brand new black off the shelf. Mine is 25mm wastegate fp ported ready for action. i had to get the evo 8 to 9 install kit as well he cut me a deal on that. so i paid like 795 shipped for the stuff.

 

ok well i have 2 brand new 80mm reds im looking at for great deals. If those dont work out ill probably look at just buying a evo9 turbo and send it to FP and probably just do the black

just saw a dyno sheet in the dyno section 470whp on pump on a stock 2.0 that is crazy

 

remember whp means nothing its all on the tq. just dont go beyond 420wtq and you will be fine for now i dont want any limitimations thats why im doing it all once built motor turbo new injector blah blah blah hints why its all in my closet. im waiting on jesseb to finish my custom stock frame manifold should be done next week to complement the black. I agree with you get a evo 9 turbo send it in get a black you can do that now with the money you have what are all the mods on your car??

 

I say get an 80mm red if the price is right, if not then get a 64mm red and buy the 80mm anti surge housing. thats my plan anyways, unless theres a great deal on a green

 

right now
hks 272
AEM
Spec manfold
Buschur race i/c
Tial bov
3" exhaust and 02 dump
ARP headstuds
1000cc and walbro 255

 

Lag is not that much you get used to it, I say go red for future upgrades.

 

i hope you know your going to be hard pressed to make 500whp without using meth injection, higher oct, or built head on the fp red. no point in getting a 64mm unless its brand new. 80mm is the way to go. the green will do 500whp easy on e85 or race juice

 

nice i would upgrade cams to kelford 272 or s2 personally but for stock motor those are nice. intake and t/b ported?? of course porting on the turbo?

 

stock i/m and throttle, turbo will be ported for sure

ive been debating on different cams but wasnt really sure what to do

 

why not port those as well more power, flow etc. not that much to get it done since your car is on wait mode might as well

 

funds are limited right now, I planned on running the stock for this summer then next year when i go 2.3 ill change that type of stuff. I didnt want to port the I/M if i didnt do a bigger throttle body and vise versa. From what ive seen the gains really arent that huge by porting stock anyway. and ive seen tons of guys making over 600 on stock t/b