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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 05:54 AM
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I talked to Sabin and no one is supposed to have the 6 map custom ROM other than him and myself now and formerly Matt. So the odds seem to stack in favor of you having one of Matt's ROMs.
Sabin doesn't say who can and cant have anything. I'll leave it at that.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 09:00 AM
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Sabin doesn't say who can and cant have anything. I'll leave it at that.
I would have to disagree. If it was originally licensed to Matt, you now have one of Matt's ROMS, and Sabin is the owner of the IP, then he does have a say. Unless you have no respect for intellectual property that is?

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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 09:13 AM
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Oh boy this ish about to get real...

Hey Aaron is my ECU being shipped back out today? Im getting anxious
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
I would have to disagree. If it was originally licensed to Matt, you now have one of Matt's ROMS, and Sabin is the owner of the IP, then he does have a say. Unless you have no respect for intellectual property that is?
Do you think Sabin is the only person who can code?

You don't think there are other people who can code? How about this.

Tell me what you want the ACD lights to do and ill make them do it. I can make the code do whatever I want. No one holds no intellectual property for what I have.

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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Your track record suggests otherwise.
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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Old Sep 11, 2014 | 04:31 PM
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Acting like I have something that I don't when you know nothing about what I have other then it has 6 map selections. Just because it has 6 map selections doesn't mean it belongs to the person you keep mentioning.

Sabins program:

My program:
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 02:44 AM
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I also have a 6ACD rom which i've been testing in some street and Time Attack cars for some time now.
There are several versions floating around, I have no doubt Toms would be different to Sabins.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
Do you think Sabin is the only person who can code?

You don't think there are other people who can code? How about this.

Tell me what you want the ACD lights to do and ill make them do it. I can make the code do whatever I want. No one holds no intellectual property for what I have.
I don't like flames on forums and I also try to stay away from them. But maybe is it time to say something?

Could you do anything with the lights 3 years ago? Or 1 year ago?
NO because you didn't know how to read/write the ECU

Could you tune a ACD ECU until 3 years ago? Or 1 year ago?
NO because you didn't know how to do it?

Are you using my method of reading/writing and tuning?
YES because I found it

And the final question is
Can you do anything with the lights in a Evo X?
NO because you don't know how to read/write

...but I know how to do all this! For more then 3 years!!!

So, let's not forget who is the egg and who is the chicken!

Case closed!

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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 05:34 AM
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That doesn't give anyone the right to speculate what I have and don't have without even knowing what it is.

I never said you were not the original person who figured it all out PUBLIC. No one is saying that. Just because you figured out how to flash an ECU or add extra maps to the already existing code doesn't mean you have the right to everything that goes on with writing the ECU.

All you figured out is what Mitsubishi allowed you to. Mitsubishi is the original Owner of the ACD System / ECU not you. If they didn't want you to be able to flash it, believe me you wouldn't be flashing it. They could add extremely high encryption to it that was uncrackable.

The only reason its flashable is because its a universal ECU they use in different cars, and swap the maps based on the cars usage. For example ralliart evos get ralliart maps etc. And for diagnostic purposes also most likely & Bug fixes / updates.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 05:42 AM
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I don't like flames on forums and I also try to stay away from them. But maybe is it time to say something?

Could you do anything with the lights 3 years ago? Or 1 year ago?
NO because you didn't know how to read/write the ECU

Could you tune a ACD ECU until 3 years ago? Or 1 year ago?
NO because you didn't know how to do it?

Are you using my method of reading/writing and tuning?
YES because I found it

And the final question is
Can you do anything with the lights in a Evo X?
NO because you don't know how to read/write

...but I know how to do all this! For more then 3 years!!!

So, let's not forget who is the egg and who is the chicken!

Case closed!

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Also let me ask you something serious. Do you think there are coders out there that do stuff and keep it private? You really have no idea what anyone can do with anything. Just because something was not shared to the public doesn't mean it wasn't done.

I know a lot of things done that were never shared to public, and never will be. Does that mean it was never done?

You are correct though in regards to you being the original person to come public with your knowledge & abilities with the ACD stuff.

But remember who you are, and what you're working with. You're working with Mitsubishi code. You didn't write what you have from scratch or design/build/ make the PCB boards in the ECU or design the ECU in general. so you need to stay humble and remember you're working with someone elses baseline product!

You clearly know way more then most people about the ACD stuff and probably other things as well, but that doesn't give you the right to claim it since there are other people out there in the world that can do what you've done and maybe done it before you but never came forward to share it?
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 06:07 AM
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Ok so after quick digging from public information there's even more to it:

4-5~ people helped code and make acd flashing what it is today. finding checksums, making it so Ecuflash supported it, etc. The development process was far more then just one person.

You are just a piece of the pie but are claiming the entire thing.

What you did might be very valuable being the first to read it (again you can thank Mitsubishi for allowing you to even be able to do this), but that doesn't mean you forget about the rest of the people who helped with dissassembly & checksum and building the platform up to what it is today.

Also remember Mitsubishi allowed you to do what you did. If they didn't want it flashable or readable it wouldn't be.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sba
I don't like flames on forums and I also try to stay away from them. But maybe is it time to say something?


Could you tune a ACD ECU until 3 years ago? Or 1 year ago?
NO because you didn't know how to do it?

Are you using my method of reading/writing and tuning?
YES because I found it



...but I know how to do all this! For more then 3 years!!!

So, let's not forget who is the egg and who is the chicken!

Case closed!

S.
Well, iirc , Gruppe-S was the FIRST to offer an acd flash back in 2008-2009ish. That makes it about 6 years ago. I dont recall any other member or vendor offering that before hand. Maybe something else was being offered in your side of the world, but nothing here in USA. IIRC they got this ability from the same guys or programs as the Raliart flashes.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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Gruppe-S got something from someone, but their map wasnt the RA map. Their map is rather poorly put together.

IP is separate from hardware. Mercedes and Toyota are the only manufacturers right now to fully lock and encrypt their software. The reason is cost since they dont develop the code. Not that many people know what goes on behind the scenes but this is why Toyota just bought several million worth of Motec to avoid development costs on external coding and the wait time.

If I were to take someone's map, reuse it and call it my own, that violates IP if it has been registered as such. If took something that was posted online, use it, but make sure my clients know it wasnt mine originally (i.e Tephra, my SD solutions) that is public use. If I did all of that and pretended it was mine that is a dirtball move.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 12:59 PM
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I feel like a good solution would be to post some snippets of source code that prove it's for the ACD and is unique.

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