T3 vs T4 1.06 twinscroll housings, any power/response difference?
Im not after anyone's records nor do I care. Im just me who lives in a blue house who likes to race and play with my car on my pocket. I have nothing to prove to anyone other then my self. I have set goals for a few things and that's it. I could care less if u like it or not.
hell yeah daniel-san!
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You guys are taking my post out of perspective.
Geoff made the comment that Dan's car proved the TS doesn't drop off by the 135mph traps. I just mentioned that another car with the same turbo in SS flavor has gone 145mph on 93 octane.
Weight is different, dedicated dragcar, blah blah blah
Point is, 135mph didn't really prove it doesn't give up top end to a SS. I am saying NOTHING more than that.
I'll take a 10 second street car with excellent street manners any day of the week and I moved the post from Dan's thread as he deserves the acknowledgment in that thread. This thread is about TS setups so it seems relevant in here.
You guys are taking my post out of perspective.
Geoff made the comment that Dan's car proved the TS doesn't drop off by the 135mph traps. I just mentioned that another car with the same turbo in SS flavor has gone 145mph on 93 octane.
Weight is different, dedicated dragcar, blah blah blah
Point is, 135mph didn't really prove it doesn't give up top end to a SS. I am saying NOTHING more than that.
I'll take a 10 second street car with excellent street manners any day of the week and I moved the post from Dan's thread as he deserves the acknowledgment in that thread. This thread is about TS setups so it seems relevant in here.
...I've said it once and I'll say it again, get a TS turbine housing that is light weight with a single wastegate outlet that works with an external gate and maybe even has some kind of bolt-less connection on the inlet and I'm sold...
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You guys are taking my post out of perspective.
Geoff made the comment that Dan's car proved the TS doesn't drop off by the 135mph traps. I just mentioned that another car with the same turbo in SS flavor has gone 145mph on 93 octane.
Weight is different, dedicated dragcar, blah blah blah
Point is, 135mph didn't really prove it doesn't give up top end to a SS. I am saying NOTHING more than that.
I'll take a 10 second street car with excellent street manners any day of the week and I moved the post from Dan's thread as he deserves the acknowledgment in that thread. This thread is about TS setups so it seems relevant in here.
You guys are taking my post out of perspective.
Geoff made the comment that Dan's car proved the TS doesn't drop off by the 135mph traps. I just mentioned that another car with the same turbo in SS flavor has gone 145mph on 93 octane.
Weight is different, dedicated dragcar, blah blah blah
Point is, 135mph didn't really prove it doesn't give up top end to a SS. I am saying NOTHING more than that.
I'll take a 10 second street car with excellent street manners any day of the week and I moved the post from Dan's thread as he deserves the acknowledgment in that thread. This thread is about TS setups so it seems relevant in here.
where did i say it proved anything?? i was playing around with dan.. he shoots me text msgs all the time about the latest car he whooped and how its too bad that his twinscroll choked up... it was a joke between him and I. thats it.
Fair enough, I took it as more of a loaded statement to stir up the single scroll guys.
I find it interesting that some people think that a T3 TS 1.06a/r will destroy the power potential of a turbo like the 3586. However, people like me and Mike at AWD have 700hp out of a stock cast 1.25" manifold with the extremely small stock TS housing on a Black...
So... If you go to a 1.25" tubular manifold (flows more than the stock cast), T3 TS 1.06a/r housing (much larger than stock housing), and upgraded to a 3586 (larger than a Black) then why could we not make 750+hp with great spool and topend? I would be willing to bet, a setup like this would only spool 200-300rpm slower than the Black and make a good 50hp more.
Mikey
So... If you go to a 1.25" tubular manifold (flows more than the stock cast), T3 TS 1.06a/r housing (much larger than stock housing), and upgraded to a 3586 (larger than a Black) then why could we not make 750+hp with great spool and topend? I would be willing to bet, a setup like this would only spool 200-300rpm slower than the Black and make a good 50hp more.
Mikey
I find it interesting that some people think that a T3 TS 1.06a/r will destroy the power potential of a turbo like the 3586. However, people like me and Mike at AWD have 700hp out of a stock cast 1.25" manifold with the extremely small stock TS housing on a Black...
So... If you go to a 1.25" tubular manifold (flows more than the stock cast), T3 TS 1.06a/r housing (much larger than stock housing), and upgraded to a 3586 (larger than a Black) then why could we not make 750+hp with great spool and topend? I would be willing to bet, a setup like this would only spool 200-300rpm slower than the Black and make a good 50hp more.
Mikey
So... If you go to a 1.25" tubular manifold (flows more than the stock cast), T3 TS 1.06a/r housing (much larger than stock housing), and upgraded to a 3586 (larger than a Black) then why could we not make 750+hp with great spool and topend? I would be willing to bet, a setup like this would only spool 200-300rpm slower than the Black and make a good 50hp more.
Mikey
This is a T4 Twin Scroll 35R and it won't have any issues making 700 whp, and will make a LOT more tq at redline than that little black. The neat part about using a T4 twin scroll turbo setup is that it can accomodate turbos that can produce 600 to 1200 hp by just swapping out the turbo and nothing else. You cannot do that on a 2 liter motor with any other manifold setup on the market, NONE of them, be it T3, T3 Twin scroll, or OEM Twin Scroll,
I don't understand what you were getting at in your post?
Scorke