T3 vs T4 1.06 twinscroll housings, any power/response difference?
check out his thread here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...-135-56-a.html
I didn't mean to get EVODan's thread off topic or take away any from him, but I still think it's worth stating...
You do realize the fastest 93 octane EVO is Buschur's and it is in the 9s, right? Single scroll with the same turbo, pulling like 10-15mph higher traps. The car is at a different level then Dan's car and Dan is doing very well, but this doesn't prove anything on the TS debate so don't try and make it.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...y-8s-race.html
Sorry... 145 mph
Which is still within the 10-15mph range I stated.
You do realize the fastest 93 octane EVO is Buschur's and it is in the 9s, right? Single scroll with the same turbo, pulling like 10-15mph higher traps. The car is at a different level then Dan's car and Dan is doing very well, but this doesn't prove anything on the TS debate so don't try and make it.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...y-8s-race.html
Sorry... 145 mph
Which is still within the 10-15mph range I stated.
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Jun 22, 2010 at 11:22 AM.
Basically, evodan2004's experience proves that a car owned by a common consumer, devoid of drastic weight reducing measures, sans special suspension prep, without hundreds of man hours of specialized development, with ordinary pump gasoline, can achieve impressive dragstrip performance using a turbo configuration oft criticized as being ill-suited for the purpose.
Like the vast majority of us, Dan isn't out to set any records with his 600whp car. There plenty of others that invest far more time and money into doing that (oftentimes to support a business), and the difference between Dan's effort and Buschur's efforts boils down to more than TS vs. open turbine housings. Dan's night at the dragstrip however certainly clears any questions as to if that level of performance can be obtained as equipped.
Just my observations.
Like the vast majority of us, Dan isn't out to set any records with his 600whp car. There plenty of others that invest far more time and money into doing that (oftentimes to support a business), and the difference between Dan's effort and Buschur's efforts boils down to more than TS vs. open turbine housings. Dan's night at the dragstrip however certainly clears any questions as to if that level of performance can be obtained as equipped.
Just my observations.
I agree fully and Dan has done a great job of proving what is capable on an above average build using TS setup.
I just didn't think it really proved anything about TS choking argument. The car with a SS setup could have easily ran as fast or faster. We don't know so there is no point in trying to draw any conclusions from it.
I just didn't think it really proved anything about TS choking argument. The car with a SS setup could have easily ran as fast or faster. We don't know so there is no point in trying to draw any conclusions from it.
I agree fully and Dan has done a great job of proving what is capable on an above average build using TS setup.
I just didn't think it really proved anything about TS choking argument. The car with a SS setup could have easily ran as fast or faster. We don't know so there is no point in trying to draw any conclusions from it.
I just didn't think it really proved anything about TS choking argument. The car with a SS setup could have easily ran as fast or faster. We don't know so there is no point in trying to draw any conclusions from it.
Dan's experience simply disproves any notion that hardware which optimizes transient response results in poor dragstrip performance by default.
I don't believe there is a more simple way to say it.
I don't believe there is a more simple way to say it.
I agree fully and Dan has done a great job of proving what is capable on an above average build using TS setup.
I just didn't think it really proved anything about TS choking argument. The car with a SS setup could have easily ran as fast or faster. We don't know so there is no point in trying to draw any conclusions from it.
I just didn't think it really proved anything about TS choking argument. The car with a SS setup could have easily ran as fast or faster. We don't know so there is no point in trying to draw any conclusions from it.
Does anybody out there need any more proof of what a properly setup T4 Twin Scroll setup can do?
I don't get what else you guys out there want, he gets 135 mph traps and mid 10 second runs on pump, I don't see much room for improvement considering how his car drives at partial throttle situations.
Scorke
Ted and scorke. Thanks for backing me up.
Did I anywhere in the last 4 years state or ask who has the record for something? No. Did I ask for the record on TS pump or drag radials? No. Im not after anyone's records nor do I care. Im just me who lives in a blue house who likes to race and play with my car on my pocket. I have nothing to prove to anyone other then my self. I have set goals for a few things and that's it. I could care less if u like it or not.
Did I anywhere in the last 4 years state or ask who has the record for something? No. Did I ask for the record on TS pump or drag radials? No. Im not after anyone's records nor do I care. Im just me who lives in a blue house who likes to race and play with my car on my pocket. I have nothing to prove to anyone other then my self. I have set goals for a few things and that's it. I could care less if u like it or not.