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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:35 AM
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Much smarter than an OLD TECHNOLOGY cast wheel LAZY 40r IMO..


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Thanks Mike!
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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There are some really exciting turbos debuting nov 2nd... I can't give up any specific details yet, but I recommend that you do not commit to any particular turbo configuration before that day. Ill definitely put my money on twinscroll ill try and get permission to post some screen shots
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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ive been thinking on the Twinscrolls man ...
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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ht3582 on a twinscroll !!!!!!!! do u know how faster this can spool vs a t3 single scroll? or what the real benefit would be ?
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
There are some really exciting turbos debuting nov 2nd... I can't give up any specific details yet, but I recommend that you do not commit to any particular turbo configuration before that day. Ill definitely put my money on twinscroll ill try and get permission to post some screen shots
I've been talking with Aaron lately and am about to place a full T4 TS turbo kit order with you guys, but if you will be offering NEW turbos in early November that compare to the 4088R in power, but with additional benefits, I will order ALL the rest of the kit now and order the turbo once it is released. Any info you could provide to me would be appreciated. PM me.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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Upcoming 2.1 T4TS build here too.. new offerings or not, I know I'm going to be happy with my choice!
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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Upcoming 2.1 T4TS build here too.. new offerings or not, I know I'm going to be happy with my choice!
same here except a 2.2L! really excited!
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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i like the results that ted.b has on his evo...i think i'm gonna go with the hta3586 1.06!!
ted uses a 3582HTA. not the HTA86. but his car is a spooling up freak with great topend.
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Old Sep 10, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
There are some really exciting turbos debuting nov 2nd... I can't give up any specific details yet, but I recommend that you do not commit to any particular turbo configuration before that day. Ill definitely put my money on twinscroll ill try and get permission to post some screen shots
Cant wait Geoff!
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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ted uses a 3582HTA. not the HTA86. but his car is a spooling up freak with great topend.
i know it's the 82, but I think the 86 would have some good top end.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:44 AM
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Ive been testing the benefits of TS for a long time and have built and tuned +700HP T4 Evos. So i speak form first-hand experience of what ive seen on my dyno.

The thread, whilst nice to read clearly shows that a large majority of comments against a TS system is based on theory and not first hand experience. The dyno shows little of the benefits netted by a TS system and therefore hardly justifies the added cost.

A few years ago (about 4) i had the same sort of view and had much to say about what i thought, but once tested on my own cars an the dyno, and on the road i had people lined up at my door eager to experience what i could not describe in words.

I have little to add to what Joeff has said, but wanted to share this bit i read somewhere...


truth goes through 3 stages.. denial, ridicule and then acceptance. Guess that some still have some way to go.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Full-Race Geoff
There are some really exciting turbos debuting nov 2nd... I can't give up any specific details yet, but I recommend that you do not commit to any particular turbo configuration before that day. Ill definitely put my money on twinscroll ill try and get permission to post some screen shots
Geoff, it's picture time!
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RunThat
I've been talking with Aaron lately and am about to place a full T4 TS turbo kit order with you guys, but if you will be offering NEW turbos in early November that compare to the 4088R in power, but with additional benefits, I will order ALL the rest of the kit now and order the turbo once it is released.
good move, this way the turbokit will be ready just before the new turbos are shipping

Originally Posted by popadel
Ive been testing the benefits of TS for a long time and have built and tuned +700HP T4 Evos. So i speak form first-hand experience of what ive seen on my dyno.The thread, whilst nice to read clearly shows that a large majority of comments against a TS system is based on theory and not first hand experience. The dyno shows little of the benefits netted by a TS system and therefore hardly justifies the added cost. A few years ago (about 4) i had the same sort of view and had much to say about what i thought, but once tested on my own cars an the dyno, and on the road i had people lined up at my door eager to experience what i could not describe in words.

I have little to add to what Geoff has said, but wanted to share this bit i read somewhere...truth goes through 3 stages.. denial, ridicule and then acceptance. Guess that some still have some way to go.
I remember some of your postings years ago which called into question the validity of our twinscroll kits' effectiveness. Thank you for posting here that you now understand the difference is night-and-day. Im sure your friends who went for a ride in your car agree

the quote you are referring to:
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dieselmd
Geoff, it's picture time!
I cant post the good pics yet, but i can post an image that hints at how thoroughly the engineering team has approached things:





^^^This is a comparison of the Singlescroll vs Twinscroll manifold performance and we use this data for accurately depicting the quality, quantity and direction of the exhaust gas as it enters the turbine housing.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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^ hard to read for me at least....not engineering grad or buff
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