bc 272 cams any good?
ok well since i can get a set of bc cams for 200 i think its a better bang for buck over a 500 set of gsc cams. i dont think the hp gain difference is worth 300 more dollars
well said. thats what i was getting at. just cause a shop tells u what they think u should get doesnt mean its what u need. they r running a business so they want u to buy what they r selling. i built my car from the block up and i dont think anyone else hin the world is running my setup because i dont want a replica i made an original.
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i like how ams writes a bs review in a mag about them just because they had a falling out and now they get labled as junk ever since. Ive had my bc 280's since bc came out. Ive made great power with them and run them at 0 degrees. Alot of big time evo shops talk alot. Doesnt mean its true use ur own brain to figure out what u want to go with dont base it off of everyone elses thoughts. Crower has been making cams longer then everyone listed in this thread. Whether its the father or son brian, u dont think they use the same techniques.
i like how ams writes a bs review in a mag about them just because they had a falling out and now they get labled as junk ever since. ive had my bc 280's since bc came out. ive made great power with them and run them at 0 degrees. alot of big time evo shops talk alot. doesnt mean its true use ur own brain to figure out what u want to go with dont base it off of everyone elses thoughts. crower has been making cams longer then everyone listed in this thread. whether its the father or son brian, u dont think they use the same techniques.
ill agree to that... also in ur sig says "self-tuned".... maybe you might want to look over ur maps, or take it to a professional
Last edited by white_evo27; Jul 20, 2010 at 11:09 PM.
On a DSM, BC280s kill spool on an Evo3 by 1,000 rpm. This was on a dyno, not the street, has dyno sheets, and we are talking 180 ft lbs lost at 3k because of it. Switching to FP2s it picked up power and spool. BC280s are junk despite what you want to think.
It would be interesting to see what it does with a good tranny and clutch, but we ran 144.5 on a 3065 with 4Rs on E85 in our street 1G. Not theory, not speculation, proven-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLFqSYX67RU
This is with FP2s in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs2u0eksgA0
You are correct that there are alot of people doing similar builds. The 2.4 Black is the newest and best example. Really I think it would make most people ask why? Why is that very copied right now? It works. We have been through the BC272 and BC280 thing for a long time in the Evos. We know they dont make the power they are sposed to without intense setup (cam gears and degree) versus cams we can drop in. Are there people that have made power on them? Number 4 of the 5 highest stock turbo Evos in the world runs them actually. A car we did several years ago, but it took ALOT of time, cam gears, an FP surge port cover and 36psi to make it happen. 464/461 isnt anything to sneeze at for sure. Or you could copy TurboJunkie's build and make 461/462 really alot easier and without as much goofing around and money being spent by just dropping in Comp 272s.
food for thought
Aaron
It would be interesting to see what it does with a good tranny and clutch, but we ran 144.5 on a 3065 with 4Rs on E85 in our street 1G. Not theory, not speculation, proven-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLFqSYX67RU
This is with FP2s in it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs2u0eksgA0
You are correct that there are alot of people doing similar builds. The 2.4 Black is the newest and best example. Really I think it would make most people ask why? Why is that very copied right now? It works. We have been through the BC272 and BC280 thing for a long time in the Evos. We know they dont make the power they are sposed to without intense setup (cam gears and degree) versus cams we can drop in. Are there people that have made power on them? Number 4 of the 5 highest stock turbo Evos in the world runs them actually. A car we did several years ago, but it took ALOT of time, cam gears, an FP surge port cover and 36psi to make it happen. 464/461 isnt anything to sneeze at for sure. Or you could copy TurboJunkie's build and make 461/462 really alot easier and without as much goofing around and money being spent by just dropping in Comp 272s.
food for thought
Aaron
Last edited by JohnBradley; Jul 20, 2010 at 11:52 PM.
What turbo was that DSM running with the BC280s? My buddies car is a 35r and doesnt even build boost until like 4300-4500rpm. I think he has full spool by about 5k. Losing spool downlow isnt a big deal though when all u do is drag race like he does. Only time that car sees 3k rpms is cruising to the track but its never at more than 20% throttle at 3k im sure lol.
Im not denying that there arent better cams for him out there or for me but it's not like they dont work.. He runs pretty good considering the minimal amount of work he has done to it.
Personally, Im wanting a cam that performs better up top now, so I went with a set of BF 272s, which will be here tomorrow actually lol. I have looked around and it seems like people are getting better results out of these Buschur cams than they are with their Kelfords. I cant wait to install them! : )
Im not denying that there arent better cams for him out there or for me but it's not like they dont work.. He runs pretty good considering the minimal amount of work he has done to it.
Personally, Im wanting a cam that performs better up top now, so I went with a set of BF 272s, which will be here tomorrow actually lol. I have looked around and it seems like people are getting better results out of these Buschur cams than they are with their Kelfords. I cant wait to install them! : )
specs this and that. BC can claim all they want.... the biggest problem with them is they can grind for ****. every cam is off on centerline... prob off in peak lift and every other spec on the cam..
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. Let me rephrase this. Me and an stock Sti were side by side both car in 4th gear at 70mph, no shifting at all. You tell me .
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well said. thats what i was getting at. just cause a shop tells u what they think u should get doesnt mean its what u need. they r running a business so they want u to buy what they r selling. i built my car from the block up and i dont think anyone else hin the world is running my setup because i dont want a replica i made an original.
if these cams r as bad as u guys r saying how r our cars even running. i have mine set at 0 degrees and rev to 8k with no valves hitting pistons. i guess since someone said there out of spec that all bc cams r out of spec. i guess since theres been some kelford failures reported that all kelfords r going to snap. douches
if these cams r as bad as u guys r saying how r our cars even running. i have mine set at 0 degrees and rev to 8k with no valves hitting pistons. i guess since someone said there out of spec that all bc cams r out of spec. i guess since theres been some kelford failures reported that all kelfords r going to snap. douches
if these cams r as bad as u guys r saying how r our cars even running. i have mine set at 0 degrees and rev to 8k with no valves hitting pistons. i guess since someone said there out of spec that all bc cams r out of spec. i guess since theres been some kelford failures reported that all kelfords r going to snap. douches