bc 272 cams any good?
john im glad u took it that way. ur the one that started with ur my cars will beat u while u waste money. very professional. u lost all respect from me at that point so whatev. i dont care what anyone thinks of what i said im not here to make friends i have enough. i know when i came on these forums i had a lot of questions and now that ive built my evo by myself i have more knowhow then when i started. so i was just tell the OP about my experience with the cams. hope he learned something. im done filling pages on this thread. although it did help pass time at work.
Ok everyone. Thanks for your help and all that controversy. It's been quite enjoyable. But a decision has been made for my moderatly modified Evo. And the winner is (drum roll). ... Kelford 272!!!! Yay! For 350 how can I choose another? Thanks for playing everyone and join me next time on IS THIS PART JUNK. !!
Ok everyone. Thanks for your help and all that controversy. It's been quite enjoyable. But a decision has been made for my moderatly modified Evo. And the winner is (drum roll). ... Kelford 272!!!! Yay! For 350 how can I choose another? Thanks for playing everyone and join me next time on IS THIS PART JUNK. !!
Something that I mentioned briefly and that Ted mentioned is BC's QC (quality control). It doesnt surprise me that some cars will do well with them as drop ins without cam timing changes. AMS' test showed that the set they got did not have consistent QC. Quality control is a 2 way street right? It can be that alot of them sneak through (maybe the ones I have seen) and are sub par. Some are "average" and are the same as they were engineered. On the other extreme are some that got ground "wrong" but end up right because the lobecenter is far enough the correct way to make good power.
adcgn45- congrats on your purchase and at a good price as well.
I have never said you cant make power with the BCs. I have said though that buyer beware and plan on spending more money in cam gears and tune time to make them right. Then there is the fact that they dont have much lift and will be limited on power after that point anyway. Like SmikeEvo said to someone else, I will take a hint and move on as well.
Aaron
adcgn45- congrats on your purchase and at a good price as well.
I have never said you cant make power with the BCs. I have said though that buyer beware and plan on spending more money in cam gears and tune time to make them right. Then there is the fact that they dont have much lift and will be limited on power after that point anyway. Like SmikeEvo said to someone else, I will take a hint and move on as well.
Aaron
I think it has been stated before that some of the fastest Evos/DSMs around run BC cams. They aren't junk, just require a little more know-how to make power out of them than most of the "drop in and go" cams on the market. One of the local dudes here told me the same **** when I got my BC cams, "you probably made more power on the stock cams." Yet, I had to add fuel all across the power band in order to run them and my car felt WAY quicker. Wish I would have had a dyno comparison because I could use that right now. If my car didn't feel any different after installing them then yah, I'd be on the other side of the fence saying BC cams are a waste of money.
Sales gimmicks, Kelford fanboys, and crappy grinding aside.. I think the OP already said he is purchasing BC cams so the rest of this arguing is meaningless.
I think in all my research, cams are just about like clutches. There are people who live and breathe one brand, while there are people who swear up and down that same brand is worthless. Doesn't make either person right or wrong really, it's just their personal experience with the product. However, more often than not, on this forum it's purely word-of-mouth and just because some kid from Kentucky who has had an Evo for 6 months read on a forum that GSC cams make more power than HKS or whatever.. he suddenly thinks he knows what he's talking about.
Sales gimmicks, Kelford fanboys, and crappy grinding aside.. I think the OP already said he is purchasing BC cams so the rest of this arguing is meaningless.
I think in all my research, cams are just about like clutches. There are people who live and breathe one brand, while there are people who swear up and down that same brand is worthless. Doesn't make either person right or wrong really, it's just their personal experience with the product. However, more often than not, on this forum it's purely word-of-mouth and just because some kid from Kentucky who has had an Evo for 6 months read on a forum that GSC cams make more power than HKS or whatever.. he suddenly thinks he knows what he's talking about.
) Tomei 270 procam is a great choice as well.
seems ok...
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