Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

for anyone that has crankcase pressure issues

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 01:21 AM
  #1111  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Currently the -10AN hose coming off the side of my VC is just VTA right now with no catch can. Should I put a can between it and run the other port on the can to the intake?

I emailed Saikou Michi so we'll see what they recommend. Then I can go from there on how to setup the rear VC port.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 07:18 AM
  #1112  
mrfred's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,675
Likes: 132
From: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
I'm kinda surprised that you're getting a lot of garbage coming out the breather vent. Even after my drop-in engine build and before I opened up the breather and PCV vents, I never got hardly anything coming out the breather. The catch-can for it was always dry.

But to answer your question, a catch can would be a good addition.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 09:10 AM
  #1113  
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
EvoM Guru
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 15,973
Likes: 1,629
From: Las Vegas
for anyone that has crankcase pressure issues

The line off the driver side of the VC should go to a catch can, and then to the intake pipe. With all 10an or 5/8 line and fittings.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 02:43 PM
  #1114  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by mrfred
I'm kinda surprised that you're getting a lot of garbage coming out the breather vent. Even after my drop-in engine build and before I opened up the breather and PCV vents, I never got hardly anything coming out the breather. The catch-can for it was always dry.

But to answer your question, a catch can would be a good addition.
Nothing is coming out of the drive side vent hose that I added on.

Its all coming out of my bov. Thats the only way I knew besides taking of the intake pipe.

Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
The line off the driver side of the VC should go to a catch can, and then to the intake pipe. With all 10an or 5/8 line and fittings.
Yeah Im going to tap the intake for a -10AN line as well and stick a can in between the intake and driver side VC port.

Im on SD so do I need a closed can or would a VTA be ok?
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 03:04 PM
  #1115  
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
EvoM Guru
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 15,973
Likes: 1,629
From: Las Vegas
Routing that line to the intake is a step in the right direction. The crank case will get 2-4in of vacuum at WOT from the intake pipe. If that doesn't solve your leakage issue, you'll then want to look at the PCV side.

I modified my PCV system to be all 10an with a plumbing check valve. It flowed too much (obviously lol, not sure what I was thinking). I replaced one of the 10an hose sections with 6an and my idle is now controllable. The driver side is all 10an through a catch can to the the intake pipe.

My red was doing what yours is doing before I upgraded the crankcase vents. It stopped leaking on its own once I got crankcase pressure under control. Yours should do the same.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 03:10 PM
  #1116  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
Routing that line to the intake is a step in the right direction. The crank case will get 2-4in of vacuum at WOT from the intake pipe. If that doesn't solve your leakage issue, you'll then want to look at the PCV side.

I modified my PCV system to be all 10an with a plumbing check valve. It flowed too much (obviously lol, not sure what I was thinking). I replaced one of the 10an hose sections with 6an and my idle is now controllable. The driver side is all 10an through a catch can to the the intake pipe.

My red was doing what yours is doing before I upgraded the crankcase vents. It stopped leaking on its own once I got crankcase pressure under control. Yours should do the same.
Alright ill start there. Just need to find a can with -10AN fittings. I emailed SM but it looks like he is backed up for a while.

Any other you recommend? I see JMfab has one offered with an option for -10 bungs.

http://www.jmfabrications.com/store/...-Catchcan.html

I assume a VTA can is OK?
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 03:12 PM
  #1117  
bradgorrigan23's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
From: Canada
Lightbulb I am new to Evo's and turbo's (NOOB)

I am deciding between a Automatic with paddle shifters or a Standard. Which one will be fastest if they have the same everything? Which one will get to the finish line first?
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 03:20 PM
  #1118  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by bradgorrigan23
I am deciding between a Automatic with paddle shifters or a Standard. Which one will be fastest if they have the same everything? Which one will get to the finish line first?
You need to post here: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...faqs-forum-61/

Do some searching as well. Mods please move.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 04:05 PM
  #1119  
LetsGetThisDone's Avatar
EvoM Guru
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 15,973
Likes: 1,629
From: Las Vegas
I used radium cans with 10an fittings. VTA is not ok. The driver side outlet needs to be routed to the turbo inlet pipe so that the vacuum in the intake pipe is pulling air/pressure out of the crank case. Just like stock, but with bigger hose/fittings for more flow.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2015 | 06:28 PM
  #1120  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
I used radium cans with 10an fittings. VTA is not ok. The driver side outlet needs to be routed to the turbo inlet pipe so that the vacuum in the intake pipe is pulling air/pressure out of the crank case. Just like stock, but with bigger hose/fittings for more flow.
Yeah I might just wait it out for a SM can. Ill look into the radium cans. Thanks
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2015 | 06:54 PM
  #1121  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
So I think I have my breather side squared away.

I already have the VC tapped and a -10AN fitting on it.

I ordered a SM catch can that has 2 -10AN ports on it. Ill run the VC into the in port and the out port will go to a -10AN fitting tapped into my intake. Hopefully this will help the blowby and oil being pushed. At the same time I will be upgrading my oil drain to a -8AN hose.

If not, next step will be to install the -10AN fitting into the rear pcv port and try this:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post11464955

Is the -10AN necessary for the rear port? I have seen most people just use the factory hose size and put a can in between the pcv valve and the IM. Anyone know what size the pcv and IM factory hose are? If the size is sufficient, I might just go that route instead of having a -10AN port on the pcv side and then a smaller non-AN hose on the other side. Unless you are somehow running the pcv valve inline with a -10AN hose?

Also if you are running the pcv like the post I linked, how did you setup the pcv valve the feed into the IM? If I recall only one side has a hose fitting.

Let me know what you guys think.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2015 | 08:22 PM
  #1122  
mrfred's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,675
Likes: 132
From: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
http://www.streettunedmotorsports.co...er_fitting.htm

Reply
Old Jul 31, 2015 | 08:26 PM
  #1123  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Yeah thats the fitting ill get if I need it. Main question is for the IM side. Are people running -10AN on one sode of the can and regular smaller hose on the other?
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2015 | 08:56 PM
  #1124  
mrfred's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,675
Likes: 132
From: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Originally Posted by asu11
Yeah thats the fitting ill get if I need it. Main question is for the IM side. Are people running -10AN on one sode of the can and regular smaller hose on the other?
Only the PCV valve flow that Tee's off the -10 AN line will go into the IM. The -10 AN needs to VTA or go into the intake pipe.
Reply
Old Jul 31, 2015 | 09:12 PM
  #1125  
asu11's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 737
Likes: 1
From: AZ
Originally Posted by mrfred
Only the PCV valve flow that Tee's off the -10 AN line will go into the IM. The -10 AN needs to VTA or go into the intake pipe.
What size is the pcv/im line? 3/8?
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:39 PM.