if you beat the hell out of it of course all day everyday. ahh but some of us cant really continuously do that no shops near me at all I dont have a ER i can drop it off to LOL so cant be always on the grind for sure. Once i move to texas ill have options but until then its take it easy time

 

badass quote lol

boughten not built when it comes to you huh? i say if you cant fix it yourself, dont break it..

built not bought here

 

what the fu#k are you talking about my car is built son got it stock minus turbo timer and i built it. DID not buy a fully built car to start with. read my thread guezz

 

you aren't building it, JMS is. When I spun a rod bearing and replaced the rings, bearings, & rehone, i had my engine back together and running in 3 weeks. Could have had it done in 2 days if all parts were there ready to go. (lesson learned; dont take a 900 mile engine to a 500-600 mile roadtrip without spare oil in the car or checking oil every gas station)

These cars dont take that long to build in reality. Yours is taking a bit longer because JMS is doing the labor for next to nothing & you told them to take their time

 

Some things are best left to the experts. You have to pay to play. You can save your self some money and do it yourself or pay up and get have someone else do it for you. I sure that most of us know that by now. The rest will learn on a bad day.

 

The main issue is offering advice without even owning the motor, or for that matter ever owning the motor. I could give 2 rips who builds it or how long it takes but when there are those of us in the industry that build them, tune them, and own them, getting called out on our opinions is not cool.

I haven't built any of the 4Gs I have owned. The first one was stock, the 2.2 was built by TJ (our 9 second Honda guy) and the second was a present from Jeff (8 sec 1G) for being his crew chief. He was tired of looking at my parts box and car while I was gone on vacation. I punch the buttons and select the parts. The 2.3 in the 2G I am building will be the first Mitsu I have "built" all by myself for myself. I have helped with other 4G63/4G64s but never done one all by my lonesome. I do small blocks and big blocks normally

Point is I can say something or guess based on experience. There are others in this thread that are guessing based on "my experience" or the information given them by other 2.4 owners that we have built and tuned who in turn know what they do because of those that build and own them. As good as a friend as he is, Mikey has never taught me anything about what I do. His opinions are based on what he learns/learned from us so asking him for advice only adds a middle man into the equation when someone can ask Luke or I. In our shop right now, everyone has owned either a 2.3 or a 2.4 (or both), and 3 of us daily 2.4s right now

We built Mikey's car

We are supplying parts for Austin (Ta Ace)

We built Nicky's

I helped with Michael's part selection (Onecrzyevo)

the list goes on and on....

 

with a good machine shop even building the motor yourself doesn't seem to hard.. all about tolerances and having a good torque wrench and a good guide and lots of assembly lube. I just go with buschurs head and shortblock because i see good results with it. (assembling a head is easy) then i do everything else myself.. same with sheps trans and tcase.. i will eventually try and assemble my own shortblock just so i can do it.. but for now im good. no plans ever to attempt a trans myself tho.. thats where i draw the line lol.

i need to do a lot of research on it. not even sure how to resize the rings to get the proper fit etc.

based on your experience so far with the 2.3 and 2g aaron how is it to build the engine? is it harder then you anticipated or is it pretty straight forward? ive already done everything myself starting with a bare shortblock, so im just curious on how it was for your first time with getting proper ring gap and all that stuff?

 

It wont be my first time building an engine solo, just a 4G63 ( I have done SBCs since I was 14). Stuff like ring gap comes down to 2 tools, a REALLY good set of feeler guages and a ring file/grinder. I havent started yet, waiting on the Wiseco HDs to show up Its straightforward as anything else I spose, I have done timing belt jobs on them, Lube is your friend like any other motor, etc.

Top ring is .050 x bore size for gap, second is .055 (ends up at .017 and .019 as I recall for a 85.5mm). Piston to wall, main clearance, and rod bearing clearance are all the machine shop or should be if you arent sure how to do it. It can all be checked at home but cant be "machined" properly without the machine shop.

 

Good post. After buying the needed tools its often more expensive to do it yourself than to have the machine shop assemble it. I have everything but a ring grinder. I have built over a dozen various engines but im leaving assembly of mine to the machine shop because i dont have a clean enough shop to assemble it. Sometimes its good to put pride aside and just let someone else do it.

 

nice. ya ive done pretty much everything there is to do with a 4g63 maintenance wise except for actually assemble one internally. I dont know how long it will be until i rebuild, because my car dont get to much mileage on it really, maybe 3k a year, its always exempt when i get it inspected lol.

Maybe pick up a bare block to have fun with and go from there.

What are you plans with this 2g? lots of power or just a casual fun car? i wouldnt mind building a dsm, the parts price vs evo is so good, yet they are practically the same damn thing LOL!

 

2G with an Auto and as much power as my Evo is currently making. I have looked into putting an auto (JDM or converted US) into my car for the last 2 years and its cheaper to do a DSM and maintain it than change the Evo.

 

how much do machine shops charge for it? so let the machine shop do the rings and etc and then you assemble the bearings, rods, etc?

can they make everything work then unassemble it and give it back in pieces so you can assemble yourself? i really want to do it myself.. but i can give up having to do grinding etc.

 

i agree and for the fraction of price you get basically the same damn thing. that sounds like a fun project man. are you building it for the street or strip or just an all around car like your evo?

 

Strip and those special occasions on "closed courses"

 

Nice!