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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 07:38 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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30 psi and 540 whp, is it just pump gas?
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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we just received a pleasant email from emp, the driver of Sierra Sierra's evo. one particular part to note:

"On the Power front....wow did we have them covered. I don't think anyone was close to our 298.9 km/h down that short front straight. Thank you Cosworth, Borg Warner, Turbo Smart, Royal Purple, Full Race, And Okada......I can't begin to express how exhilarating that power is." -David Empringham
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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Awesome, thanks for sharing! Whats spool like?
I'll have a better idea once i see the graph later today.

If the dyno is not being used i'll try and get a graph posted up but i don't think it's finished being tuned

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Thank you Patrick.
Welcome

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30 psi and 540 whp, is it just pump gas?
All tuning is being done on pump E85 as we only have 91oct here in CA

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we just received a pleasant email from emp, the driver of Sierra Sierra's evo. one particular part to note:

"On the Power front....wow did we have them covered. I don't think anyone was close to our 298.9 km/h down that short front straight. Thank you Cosworth, Borg Warner, Turbo Smart, Royal Purple, Full Race, And Okada......I can't begin to express how exhilarating that power is." -David Empringham
Def sounds like the Evo is making gobs of power

Hope to hear from you tonight or later this week!
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PATRICK B.
We hit a limit of 32psi of boost and only reving it to 7300 rpm +/- and it put down 540-550AWHP on our MD so obviously lots more to go. Sean said he'd like to run closer to 40psi so i will be in touch with Geoff sometime soon to see what we can do about getting the WG to hold more boost
hey patrick - good speaking with you today. 32.6psi is the maximum inteneded boost level for the single port internal wastegate canister. Sean is obviously on the right track that adding a 2nd barb to the canister is the correct thing to do (in principle) *however* it will be tough to do this to the existing canister without damaging the diaphragm and/or having a boost leak at the bottom of the can. As I mentioned we will have the billet EFR wastegate actuators with dual nipples ready shortly and this will be a great test bed for them. I look forwards to finding out what you guys figure out
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 02:51 PM
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The cyber evo is ~20mph slower on the straights yet managed to turn a faster lap time? Sounds like SSE needs to get the weight down.
Speed on the straight is a small part of the equation, maybe with a small turbocharger SSE would have made a better time...
The 9180 is a MASSIVE turbo, something like a Garrett GT42!
Also, the SSE evo this year is very light, they shaved 800 lbs out in comparison to 2010 WTAC!

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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by eTiLiKo
Speed on the straight is a small part of the equation, maybe with a small turbocharger SSE would have made a better time...
The 9180 is a MASSIVE turbo, something like a Garrett GT42!
Also, the SSE evo this year is very light, they shaved 800 lbs out in comparison to 2010 WTAC!
800 lbs lighter? You sure about that as looking back the car was like 2750 last year.

No doubt there is more to it then straight line speed. I was coming from the perspective that they feel response on the 9180 is fine so either the Cyber Evo has some crazy advantage in weight...or...who knows as the SSE EVO is pretty serious business on aero, suspension, and brakes.

No doubt, a smaller turbo could go faster, but I seem to remember reading a motoiq blog where they had the smaller 8374 on and then tested it against the 9180 and the 9180 turned faster laps?
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
800 lbs lighter? You sure about that as looking back the car was like 2750 last year.

No doubt there is more to it then straight line speed. I was coming from the perspective that they feel response on the 9180 is fine so either the Cyber Evo has some crazy advantage in weight...or...who knows as the SSE EVO is pretty serious business on aero, suspension, and brakes.

No doubt, a smaller turbo could go faster, but I seem to remember reading a motoiq blog where they had the smaller 8374 on and then tested it against the 9180 and the 9180 turned faster laps?
I think if the SSE could've kept the trans together we would've seen some blazing fast numbers. Why the SSE Evo didn't wax the Cyber Evo, would probably be better addressed by the SSE team themselves.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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True...
But are they even on here?

Speculation buddy...
Speculation

What else am I going to do with my time? Work on my car???
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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I suppose... it is the forums...and we're all discussing a turbo we don't have. I guess it's fair game.

I suspect SSE wasn't prepared enough for the setup the car ran at WTAC and they suffered a failure due to lack of testing. For making nearly twice as much power as the Cyber Evo, they certainly didn't hustle the car around the track respectively as fast. Something is amiss.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:34 PM
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Its not 800 lbs lighter, they said that as a joke because a lot of the other cars are tube chassis and not a lot of stock sheetmetal.
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 04:55 PM
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If those high speeds were recorded on the final session before the gbox broke, maybe they were on the way to a pants fillingly fast time and the previous recorded times were just an indicator of its potential?
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Great time attack turbo here!
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Old Aug 10, 2011 | 06:11 PM
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patric i still cant understand, you running 32 pounds of boost and only getting 550whp on E85?
So much boost for such low number, or im just not too familiar with evos..
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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 04:22 AM
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edit: repost plz ignore

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