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Old May 25, 2011 | 05:00 AM
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500 WHP DP question

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Currently i'm running a 3076 t3 setup with a ford style 5 bolt flange. Currently my DP is 2.5 in, with e85 and TOBZ perfection i'm at 488 awhp on a MD.

Since my car isn't selling i'm thinking about upgrading to gtx 3076 or or gtx 35. Thjs would increase spool and horsepower, making DD more enjoyable, and put something fresh under the hood.

I could easily just throw a another turbo in there with the dp and call it a day, or I switch some things up and get a 3 in dp.

Does anybody know if it would be worth my while to go into a 3in dp? I'm not looking for ***** out, get every oz of power. But, if this is going to greatly efffect spool and whp I need to make the change with the purchase.

My thoughts are a 3 in v-band set up would a **** ton easier to install and deal with later. Downside would be having to ether custom make a dp or buy one from a kit like the ets and see if it mates up.

What do you guys think..

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Old May 25, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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The down pipe. will help since it will breath easyer. few hp to be had.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 09:08 AM
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Is swaping turbine housings an option for you? If you able to go down in A/R that would have a larger impact on turbo spool then increasing the downpipe.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 03:56 PM
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you make roughly 400whp/360wtq because those inflated numbers are corrected and they are what you could "possibly" make at sea level with perfect conditions.
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Old May 25, 2011 | 09:24 PM
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^ that is not the point at all, i really don't give a flying **** about corrected vs uncorrected number, at no point was that even the topic of discussion.

Regardless of inflated numbers or not, this thread is about a 3 in DP being cost effective vs the whp gains/spool time using a gtx3076 at 30psi

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Old May 25, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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you might loose some TQ but gain HP id go 3" V-band for sure
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Old May 26, 2011 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by rdwngs44
you make roughly 400whp/360wtq because those inflated numbers are corrected and they are what you could "possibly" make at sea level with perfect conditions.
Who cares? Get off your dyno number high horse you hypocrite.

Toastman, the 3" downpipe on the current turbo will net you a little bit of power but a turbo upgrade would get you the best results.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pwdrtoastman
^ that is not the point at all, i really don't give a flying **** about corrected vs uncorrected number, at no point was that even the topic of discussion.

Regardless of inflated numbers or not, this thread is about a 3 in DP being cost effective vs the whp gains/spool time using a gtx3076 at 30psi
than why post your dyno numbers at all if you dont care?


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Who cares? Get off your dyno number high horse you hypocrite.

Toastman, the 3" downpipe on the current turbo will net you a little bit of power but a turbo upgrade would get you the best results.
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Old May 26, 2011 | 08:47 PM
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it wasn't a dick swinging contest, it was to establish a power level and see if the size of dp mattered or not
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Old May 27, 2011 | 12:27 AM
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than why post your dyno numbers at all if you dont care?




Why post at all when you had nothing of value to add.

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Everyone uses correction factors, just post up what Dyno it is, and the cf. I don't have a problem with cf at all because all dynos automatically changes cf for the weather and barometric pressure
For not caring back then you sure do have a hard on for caring now.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:45 AM
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o geez always have to resort to the a dick measuring contest instead of helping the OP out, i agree that the 3' will net more power but a turbo upgrade would net the most power hope this helps
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Old May 27, 2011 | 05:44 AM
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Some people will disagree but .
IMO you don't get the same performance from a Garrett GT30 series turbo without its OE GT30 turbine housing . I think this is even more so if the Ford style Garrett "T" series turbine housing is an IW one .

I find it a bit hard to believe how GTX turbos would "spool" any better than the GT ones given that they are higher capacity compressor wheels size for size .

I'd have gone with a Pro Stock manifold and one of the twin scroll standard frame type hi flows from CBRD or FP .
Good performance from things that look sort of std get the best cred IMO .

A .
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Old May 28, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by project_skyline
Why post at all when you had nothing of value to add.



For not caring back then you sure do have a hard on for caring now.

Dang... Taking it back to coevo huh?
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Old May 28, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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seems like it to me
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Old May 29, 2011 | 04:15 AM
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You're probably going to have to make a DP depending on your manifold design. but yes 3'' is a huge gain. also let me suggest you switch to a Precision 5557 instead of the GTX30r. I've never been a fan of garret stuff just because it seems kind of plain and out dated technology
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