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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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So Bushur has their own reflash machine now? I'm a little confused
I as well.
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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That's the Al I wish we would have seen all along. It kills me that I'm not in a position to order a Buschur stage 4 with flash anymore. I think it would be the ultimate street car for the average Evo owner... if not too much car.
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Power under the curve, the only thing that really matters. That should be the only thing that anyone ever looks at when critiquing a dyno chart, especially for a street car. Those torque numbers are awesome, and probably unmatched no matter what dyno, AWD, FWD converted or whatever. The shape and area under the curve shouldn't change given a different dyno or load configuration. That's the Buschur tune doing the work, and a simple machine doing the math, and the math says, for $399 you'd be hard pressed to get more for your money elsewhere. Great job guys, you can just tell the naysayers to.......i think someone put it best as....."Shove it!!!....
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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The four most important things to me in a vendor are: Integrity, communication, proven tuning results, and product build quality.. In that order.

I have to work hard for the small percentage of money in our budget that gets allocated to car mods. Hence why I research it so much. I have to battle the wife for $$ as she keeps modding the house. And we all know that is a lot more expensive.

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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Absolutely love my complete Buschur Filter to intake manifold mods!!! I have a five mile uphill canyon run where I flog my EVO and after a hard pass I stopped the car and felt the output pipe from my Buschur FMIC ..... COLD thats right cooler than the air I was testing the car in... so have fun on the dyno's kiddies. I know my motor is getting the coldest most dense air to make the most power ALL the time. Thanks David/Tym/Jerod and all the others at Buschur Racing... (has anyone noticed they are the only ones to shorted the piping 36" take out 13 bends... My EVO spools FASTER than stock ;-0 ).
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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I don't get it, why would Buschur the "Gods" of the 4g63 who have been doing this for 15+ years and have a 8 second car need Big Al with 8 months of ECU tuning? Is Buschur that far behind in the ECU world or what?
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Re: Buschur Flashed........WOW.

What do you do about the cams? When I talked to Al he said he does not have access to whatever and can not get the cams to idle?


Originally posted by davidbuschur
Well guys Al from Dynoflash came to our shop today.

We (here at Buschur Racing) thought that with the timing work that he had been doing and our extensive AFR knowledge that we could get the best of both worlds from flashing the EVO ECU's.

Man were we right!!! NO BS here. The flash after 8 hours of dyno work has proven to be really unbelieveable.

We started out with the car in Stage 4. Our staged upgrades can be found on our website.

With the AFC, race gas and 21.5 psi of boost the car made 380.8 whp and 349.1 ft bls of torque. The curve looked really good.

We then removed the AFC from the car and started tuning with just the flash. The peak HP numbers weren't quite as high BUT the power under the curve in both HP and torque were unbelievable. We ended up with 371.4 whp and a HUGE HUGE 372.8 ft lbs of torque. This is a gain of 23.7 ft lbs!!

We then drained the tank of fuel to make sure we were on nothing but STRAIGHT 94 octane pump fuel. We put the stock fuel pump back in the car and swapped the stock injectors back in.

With the AFC back on we made 356 whp and 290 ft lbs of torque.
We then went to work with the flash. After more tuning we were able to make 346.4 whp and a huge gain in torque up to 329.3. This is a 39.3 ft lb gain in torque. These runs on pump gas were made with the boost at 20 psi, NOT over.

The car runs SWEET like this. I am amazed at what Tym, Al and myself were able to come up with. This flash is the way to go.

The flash is undetectable by the dealer, no wiring, nothing additional to add.

I am going to get these curves posted up on our website.

I want you to all look at some things for me when they are up.

Compare some of these other "shops" out there with our charts.

Forget all the flat out bull**** being tossed around about who has the best dyno. Forget that part. Just compare the curves. These guys claiming to be expert tuners aren't impressing us. You can look at our AFC tunes on our site right now and see what they are suppose to look like with the right parts combination and tuning. The HP shouldn't fall off as the RPM's raise, some of the curves I am seeing from these so called tuners look like downhill ski slopes! You will see ours are uphill to the end of the pull or atleast flat.

Check it out for yourself. Hell, you can use our AFC charts up now and see. Just wait until we post the flash results.

We are offering the flashes for our staged upgrades ONLY. The flash is $399. All of them will include eliminating the fuel cut and the tune for the stage you have. There are other options but it will be up to you if you want the speed limiter taken out and the rev limiter removed or changed.

Great things are happening guys, climb aboard.

David Buschur
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Re: Re: Buschur Flashed........WOW.

Originally posted by Ryanmcd3
What do you do about the cams? When I talked to Al he said he does not have access to whatever and can not get the cams to idle?


Thanks to the magjic genious of Tym at Buschur, he figured a solution to the cam idle issue and now they idel almost like stock !


The talent and intelect of Tym can not be underestimated.
BTW - These tunes did NOT have any input from myself -- Dave and Tym ran the dyno and tuned the car - themselves. It was the most amazing 8 hours I have ever spent. I Have seen a LOT of tuners out there - but none who could compare to these two guys.


PS - all runs SAE corrected - in 4th gear - no i/c sprayer and no fan ! That buschur fmic is some unit !

PPS - they need to film MONSTER GARAGE at Buschur one time so you all can see how amazing it is to be there

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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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So, will Buschur's flash be available ONLY with his stuff, whereas Als Dynoflash can incorporate a wide variety of mods?
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:31 PM
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I've talked to both and that's what I understand.
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Dave, are you there?
Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Buschur Flashed........WOW.

Originally posted by shiv@vishnu

Of course, this is all fun with numbers and not to be confused with fact. But since numbers are gospel in some circles, I offer this as a counterpoint to Dave B's comments disparaging our offerings and tuning services. As always, YMMV...

Best Regards,
Shiv
LMAO, dude you have a serious imagination! No where in that post does Dave mention you in the least bit. Please if I missed it quote it and show me. If your talking about the part where he says "other shops" or "best dynos" then you my friend have serious inferiority complex. But hey if your getting that worked up about it...... {if the shoe fit's}

Any how it's very obvious to me that you my friend that your post insight the very thing that caused AL's product to be removed. Thats OK I gues, just keep those bucks rollin in and you'll be fine.
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Buschur Flashed........WOW.

Originally posted by BADEVO


LMAO, dude you have a serious imagination! No where in that post does Dave mention you in the least bit. Please if I missed it quote it and show me. If your talking about the part where he says "other shops" or "best dynos" then you my friend have serious inferiority complex. But hey if your getting that worked up about it...... {if the shoe fit's}

PLease. Mr. Buschur makes an obvious reference to a vendor that has recently posted dyno charts with power curves going downwards at the end, and just about everyone reading it except you realized that it was a reference to Vishnu.

When someone makes an obvious reference to another while still remaining civil about it, the party referred to by reference has every right to answer, and not have to put up with BS flaming like "******* you sure have a serious imagination!" This gives the party making reference to another the right to do so and precludes anyone from answering b/c despite the fact that the reference is obvious (well, to everyone except you apparently), the exact party was not identified.
Old Jan 17, 2004 | 05:58 AM
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If horsepower starts falling soon after peak torque is reached I'd be looking for a different way to waste my money. **** and hookers would be a much more effective means. I hear Vegas is nice this time of year.



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