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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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Eric, any idea what the standard voltage regulator is set at? Trying to figure out if the adjustable is worth it.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Will this alternator work on Evo X and Ralliarts. I have ran underdrive pulleys on mustangs but never backed them up with a higher amp alternator. Speaking from experience, using just underdrive pullies you are running your charging system at the ragged edge. You will be a lot less prone to run your battery in acc mode or push your luck in colder weather. A higher amp alternator using less horsepower to turn would be great. I really haven't studied much on the wiring in these cars but I'd say you'd have to upgrade your wiring coming directly off the alternator to your main fuse block/battery.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
From what i read, 14v batteries need to be charged at 16.8v.
You could be right, I haven't really looked into it much. Just saw a company that makes them and thought it might work out.

I measured my current alternator. The diameter of the high points on the serpentine belt section was 64.8mm. The original alternator is likely in storage, I'll try to find it in the next couple days.

FWIW, the FSM has a specification for alternator output based on temperature. At -20C standard value is 14.2 - 15.2. I would bet the stock stuff would be fine at 15+ VDC.

As for wiring, the stock wire is 15mm^2 in area or 0.172" Dia, which is between 5-6AWG. Recommended fusing for 6AWG is 55-75A depending on insulation, 5AWG takes you up to 95A. The stock 100A fuse is likely pretty aggressive for the wire size to begin with.

You could add a parallel conductor of 6AWG size and fuse it at 75A. This would get you to 175A capacity and would still protect the factory wire and the new wire.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 03:48 AM
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Great info, i think the weak link at 15+v would be the battery then.
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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Yeah, If a 14V battery would charge at 15.5V or so, I think it would probably work out pretty well. Doesn't really matter though as the only 14V batteries I have found are all in the 25+ pound range.

As for using a capacitor to keep charge up, that's not going to happen. Let's say you tried to hold voltage at the 14.4V level for 10 seconds when the alternator can only put out enough to keep up with 13V. The power difference there is 140W which is 1400J of energy storage. Just to store that much energy to begin with, you would need a ~13 Farrad capacitor. That's considering it dropped all voltage in that time. To keep voltage above 14V, it would have to be a massive capacitor.

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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
Yeah, If a 14V battery would charge at 15.5V or so, I think it would probably work out pretty well. Doesn't really matter though as the only 14V batteries I have found are all in the 25+ pound range.

As for using a capacitor to keep charge up, that's not going to happen. Let's say you tried to hold voltage at the 14.4V level for 10 seconds when the alternator can only put out enough to keep up with 13V. The power difference there is 140W which is 1400J of energy storage. Just to store that much energy to begin with, you would need a ~13 Farrad capacitor. That's considering it dropped all voltage in that time. To keep voltage above 14V, it would have to be a massive capacitor.
I use a Batcap 800 in my car, supposedly it can discharge almost like a capacitor maybe that could work for what you are talking about. I've used both the Batcap and a Optima Red top together, and the two independently, and I can say I like the Batcap by itself if it weren't for the lower amp hours on the smaller battery I'd say there are no drawbacks. Maybe I will try to run two Batcaps in parallel, but that kind of negates the weight savings with running a small battery. (I chose this model for the capacity/weight/ability to mount under the seat.)

I've had the Batcap 800 mounted under my passenger seat for 2+ years with no problems I run one 0 Guage wire from my engine bay to inside the cabin fused with a 150amp circuit breaker similar to the one posted earlier in this thread, except mine is the "Stinger" branded one

Anyway Kinetik and other Car Audio battery manufactures also do 16v batteries with dual posts 16v/12v if anyone wanted to try out the adjustable voltage thing.

http://www.batcap.net/AboutUs/Whatis...2/Default.aspx


Looked it up really quick,

OEM Mitsubishi Evo 9 battery w/plastic tray, tiedown, etc. – 36.55 lb
H-6.5"/W-7"/D-3"

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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 07:01 PM
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I'd suggest a write up without engineer talk once you guys get it installed and make a list of everything that you guys did as I would feel pretty bad if other people did this and they Burned up their wire harness by not knowing to upgrade parts of their harness. Again, just a suggestion.
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Old Nov 11, 2012 | 11:30 AM
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Josh, the alternator will only supply enough current to match the demand.
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Old Nov 13, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 12:37 AM
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Will the underdrive pulley change at idle and still survive reving out to 9,500?
OR if we run the stock size pulley can we increase idle speed to get it charging?
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Old Nov 15, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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^ I'm having one built to test the output with the OEM pulley. Details on the upgrade to support high RPM use coming soon!
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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Any new updateds or info about the alternator R/TErnie, or still in testing phase?
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 03:41 PM
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I will have khmerpimpin call him tomorrow and give us some ETA's on the test alternator.
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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How much are these going for?
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Old Nov 18, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by R/TErnie
I will have khmerpimpin call him tomorrow and give us some ETA's on the test alternator.
Sounds Good. Keeps Us updated R/TErnie Thanks
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