The Turbokit is out and it's sick
Originally Posted by Noize
For spoolup, but compared to a 16G? Get real, man. The 1.8T's limiting factor is that baby turbo. The guy comapred the stocker to an APR Stage III turbo, but the 16G is much more comparable to the APRIII unit than the crappy teensy K03.
good points though
I don't know if this is been covered already but the OEM K03 turbo on the Jetta/GTi puts out the cfm of a fart compared to a big 16G. You HAVE to upgrade that tiny puke-n-die turbo immediately. The 16G has gone mid 11s with no nitrous in a car that is full weight. There's no single K03 in the universe that can do that in a full weight Dub.. Maybe if the 1.8T is modded and put in a Super7 LOL.
just to let you know K03 and K04 are great turbos
For spoolup, but compared to a 16G? Get real, man. The 1.8T's limiting factor is that baby turbo. The guy comapred the stocker to an APR Stage III turbo, but the 16G is much more comparable to the APRIII unit than the crappy teensy K03.
just to let you know K03 and K04 are great turbos
For spoolup, but compared to a 16G? Get real, man. The 1.8T's limiting factor is that baby turbo. The guy comapred the stocker to an APR Stage III turbo, but the 16G is much more comparable to the APRIII unit than the crappy teensy K03.
The issue was not comparing the the 16g to the k03, please read the entire post before responding.
Now back on topic....
Don't mean to highjack the thread, but since it's relevant to the discussions if it hasn't yet been mentioned...
ATP also has the GT2871R that may suit some. Perhaps they can incorporate it into their EVO 8 offerings bolt on offerings. If not, DNP has a manifold that should mate well with it.
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT
ATP also has the GT2871R that may suit some. Perhaps they can incorporate it into their EVO 8 offerings bolt on offerings. If not, DNP has a manifold that should mate well with it.
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=GRT
Last edited by n00dle; Jun 29, 2004 at 06:40 PM.
Originally Posted by bolsen
Noize, we all know the k03 is tiny, don't beat a dead horse.
The issue was not comparing the the 16g to the k03, please read the entire post before responding.
Now back on topic....
The issue was not comparing the the 16g to the k03, please read the entire post before responding.
Now back on topic....
I read the entire thread up to that point, Champion of Love, but you derailed the post in the first place with all the K03 VW crap. Thankfully, someone already called you out on it. IMO, there is no 4 cylinder turbo car that has been sold in the USA that has a capable OEM snail as the Evo's 16G. Its really overengineered for the platform, and can take the car cleanly into the 11s, as discussed. I think that upgrading too soon without cams, etc. with too big a turbo shows that the spool compromise ****IN THIS CASE**** is not worth it. Conversely, the K03 on the 1.8T is one of the most under-engineered OEM turbos out there, hence why the APR Stage III kit works so well. Capiche? Keep rolling your eyes until you process this reality into your mind. Have a great night.
Originally Posted by Az3ar
these are great numbers however we have 91 gas here not 98 


i believe 98 RON is ~ equiv. to 93/94? MON? (i suck at math) but i assume your refferring to his type of gasoline, which in europe i'm pretty sure they use RON same as Japan.
but in the U.S. we use the average (RON + MON)/2=Octane at the pump
Last edited by nastea; Jun 29, 2004 at 07:27 PM.
Originally Posted by nastea
98 RON is different than 91 AKI
i believe 98 RON is ~ equiv. to 93/94? MON? (i suck at math) but i assume your refferring to his type of gasoline, which in europe i'm pretty sure they use RON same as Japan.
but in the U.S. we use the average (RON + MON)/2=Octane at the pump

i believe 98 RON is ~ equiv. to 93/94? MON? (i suck at math) but i assume your refferring to his type of gasoline, which in europe i'm pretty sure they use RON same as Japan.
but in the U.S. we use the average (RON + MON)/2=Octane at the pump
Nesta thanks for the info. However I lived in Italy for the longest time and when I said 98 I ment (RON + MON)/2 in europe
now I dont know if you know thisRON= Research Octane Number
MON= Motor Octane Number
they have good gas over there but prices are over kill.
Originally Posted by Noize
I read the entire thread up to that point, Champion of Love, but you derailed the post in the first place with all the K03 VW crap. Thankfully, someone already called you out on it. IMO, there is no 4 cylinder turbo car that has been sold in the USA that has a capable OEM snail as the Evo's 16G. Its really overengineered for the platform, and can take the car cleanly into the 11s, as discussed. I think that upgrading too soon without cams, etc. with too big a turbo shows that the spool compromise ****IN THIS CASE**** is not worth it. Conversely, the K03 on the 1.8T is one of the most under-engineered OEM turbos out there, hence why the APR Stage III kit works so well. Capiche? Keep rolling your eyes until you process this reality into your mind. Have a great night.I dont know about lag man. I had the turbo today give me 15 psi around 3900 rpm and full 24 psi around 4400 rpm with my stock CAT. I guess ATP and my brother were not lying they told me wait until it get's broken in with a test pipe I will be 400 to 600 after stock
Originally Posted by Az3ar
Nesta thanks for the info. However I lived in Italy for the longest time and when I said 98 I ment (RON + MON)/2 in europe
now I dont know if you know this
RON= Research Octane Number
MON= Motor Octane Number
they have good gas over there but prices are over kill.
now I dont know if you know thisRON= Research Octane Number
MON= Motor Octane Number
they have good gas over there but prices are over kill.
Originally Posted by nastea
aah i didn't know they used AKI in europe... i always thought they used striaight RON, and yes, if we paid for gas by the Litre, OUCH!
I filled my tank at Shell this morning and I had to pay 10,25 SEK which is about $1,35 per LITRE!!!
Az3ar when I said GT2830 I meant a GT28 exhaust side with a GT30 compressor side. Should be good for around 500bhp with better spool up than a GT30R. I just no one seems to be building these hybrids over there.
Chris.
Chris.
Originally Posted by Az3ar
Nesta thanks for the info. However I lived in Italy for the longest time and when I said 98 I ment (RON + MON)/2 in europe
now I dont know if you know this
RON= Research Octane Number
MON= Motor Octane Number
they have good gas over there but prices are over kill.
now I dont know if you know thisRON= Research Octane Number
MON= Motor Octane Number
they have good gas over there but prices are over kill.
Ya but I think in europe they can get 104ron at the pump. Well at least you can in Magdaburg Germany, I seen it first hand when I was filling up my Rental.
Last edited by Eric Lyublinsky; Jun 30, 2004 at 06:01 AM.







