View Poll Results: Is the MR worth the extra money over the GSR?
Yup, ACD and 6-speed is a must!



501
44.93%
Nope, not worth the money.



614
55.07%
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MR vs EVO: Is the MR edition worth it?
The dealership I bought my 2004 Evo VIII through got 3 MR's in the day I went in to sign papers. They had the sticker price at like 40,000- so I had no doubt I was making the right decision.
Dont' get me wrong- the MR rocks. I like the wheels better, the turbo is a bit larger and of course the active differential is there, but those vortex generators are ugly!!
I'm happy with my car, but if offered the MR for the same price- it's a no brainer.
Dont' get me wrong- the MR rocks. I like the wheels better, the turbo is a bit larger and of course the active differential is there, but those vortex generators are ugly!!
I'm happy with my car, but if offered the MR for the same price- it's a no brainer.
Don't like the Mr's six speed. I didn't like the six speed on the STi either. Love my EVO's five speed. Don't have to shift as much
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Originally Posted by TurboWill
Don't like the Mr's six speed. I didn't like the six speed on the STi either. Love my EVO's five speed. Don't have to shift as much
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Another thought...
Not only does the MR weigh slightly more than the GSR this year, but that weight is in a very undesireable location. The Evo is already nose-heavy, but the MR's heavier transmission sits in-line with the front axle. That, combined with the heavier HID's and the foglights that the GSR lacks means the MR should have be even further away from the 'ideal' weight distribusion of 50:50 as compared to the GSR.
6-speed envy indeed
Joe
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6-speed envy indeed

Joe
www.joe250.com
Just keeping everyone honest.
I think the MR has some nice advantages over the others, but then again, the RS has some too. Wouldn't it be great to pick and choose the best from each? Anyways, I think it is great that everyone is sharing what they know about the various models so people can make an informed decision.
And on that note, here is some great info John H put together regarding the 5 vs 6 speed. If I understood his calculations correctly, if you rev the motor to redline and then upshift, this is where the RPM's will end up in the next higher gear. You want the RPM's to be higher, where the motor is making more power.
GSR:
4661/5050/5129/4888
MR:
4677/5163/5369/5523/5588
I see a nice improvement in 4th and 5th, so the 6speed looks better gearing-wise for the track. For autox work, I would think you are worse off with the MR's trannie, additional weight, and weight distribution. Some of that is offset by the roof, wheels, and suspension.
Again, each Evo this year has its pros and cons. Look over all the data and make an informed decision.
Joe
www.joe250.com
And on that note, here is some great info John H put together regarding the 5 vs 6 speed. If I understood his calculations correctly, if you rev the motor to redline and then upshift, this is where the RPM's will end up in the next higher gear. You want the RPM's to be higher, where the motor is making more power.
GSR:
4661/5050/5129/4888
MR:
4677/5163/5369/5523/5588
I see a nice improvement in 4th and 5th, so the 6speed looks better gearing-wise for the track. For autox work, I would think you are worse off with the MR's trannie, additional weight, and weight distribution. Some of that is offset by the roof, wheels, and suspension.
Again, each Evo this year has its pros and cons. Look over all the data and make an informed decision.
Joe
www.joe250.com
Hmm, the MR's 6-speed looks perfect for a big turbo upgrade (no need to worry about 4th to 5th gear lag). However, on the stock hair-dryer either setup looks to be more than adequate. 
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Can,t reallt justify the 11 grand higher than I paid for my 03. I love the looks of the gray one and after driving the handling was much better. I think a set of coil-overs will fix. After all my work I just cant justify the trade. I just asked for the Vortex generator for Chrismas.
I do have to say though if I did not already own an EVO I would go for it!
I do have to say though if I did not already own an EVO I would go for it!
Did anyone ever think that Mitsu did this to make money? They had the ability to make the MR when they first released the 03 Evo. But they didn't we got a "watered down" evo then next year we get LSD front and rear, So people go trading their cars for the 04, now 05 we get a 6th gear, ACD, and LSD in the front, So what happens people run out and trade their cars in to get the new one. Next year it will be something new. Be happy with what you have because there will always be something new in a year. I'd say if you have the money fine.... But what can you get in aftermarket parts with $8K...
Can you say Turbo Upgrade? Like I have read here and totally believe most people will never push the car to even notice the ACD, the 6th gear is nice but not worth $8K.... The suspension is nice but you can do better with the $8K you have saved when you got the 03/04. The roof is ummm a gimic.... Also with the $8K you can get something you would really notice like 400WHP.
Can you say Turbo Upgrade? Like I have read here and totally believe most people will never push the car to even notice the ACD, the 6th gear is nice but not worth $8K.... The suspension is nice but you can do better with the $8K you have saved when you got the 03/04. The roof is ummm a gimic.... Also with the $8K you can get something you would really notice like 400WHP.
Last edited by ThEHiTMaN; Nov 11, 2004 at 08:07 PM.
Nope.. I'll be putting in a front LSD relatively soon... That's all I need... Keep that damn ACD.. When that schit breaks, better get a bank loan to fix it... You think Mits is gonna warrantee that? ACD is just another part to turn and break... I'm not a big highway driver so I don't really need the 6 speed... With the power I have for the moment, the 5 gears are quick enough, damn...
Last edited by Jonasan50; Nov 27, 2004 at 09:41 AM.
Originally Posted by juancevo8
with less than 5k you can upgrade the 03 like I did and I can beat any MR on the track... come on !! it is only 6 more hp compare to the 03
Oh yeah, can you them them apart?

Last edited by MR-SilverEVO8; Nov 27, 2004 at 05:01 PM.
Originally Posted by Richard EVO
No way. I got a new '04 RS for $26,100 ($300 over invoice) three weeks ago. $8,000+ is a heck of a lot of mod money. My modded RS will be WAY faster than a stock MR.

Easier to distinguish from this perspective.....
Last edited by MR-SilverEVO8; Nov 27, 2004 at 05:02 PM.
I drove home yesterday in a 'standard' 05 Evo rather then the MR.
I'd probably prefer the Bilstein shocks, but the BBS wheels and 6 speed weren't enough to make up for the $6000 price difference - not that I didn't think about the 6 speed, but the top gear ratio in the 6 speed is only 2.5 percent taller then the 5 speed so freeway cruising would be about the same and more gears in the same basic rev range just didn't seem worth it to me. The other features like aluminum pedals and the vortec generators don't make much difference too me one way or another.
Jim
I'd probably prefer the Bilstein shocks, but the BBS wheels and 6 speed weren't enough to make up for the $6000 price difference - not that I didn't think about the 6 speed, but the top gear ratio in the 6 speed is only 2.5 percent taller then the 5 speed so freeway cruising would be about the same and more gears in the same basic rev range just didn't seem worth it to me. The other features like aluminum pedals and the vortec generators don't make much difference too me one way or another.
Jim
Originally Posted by Jhodel
I drove home yesterday in a 'standard' 05 Evo rather then the MR.
I'd probably prefer the Bilstein shocks, but the BBS wheels and 6 speed weren't enough to make up for the $6000 price difference - not that I didn't think about the 6 speed, but the top gear ratio in the 6 speed is only 2.5 percent taller then the 5 speed so freeway cruising would be about the same and more gears in the same basic rev range just didn't seem worth it to me. The other features like aluminum pedals and the vortec generators don't make much difference too me one way or another.
Jim
I'd probably prefer the Bilstein shocks, but the BBS wheels and 6 speed weren't enough to make up for the $6000 price difference - not that I didn't think about the 6 speed, but the top gear ratio in the 6 speed is only 2.5 percent taller then the 5 speed so freeway cruising would be about the same and more gears in the same basic rev range just didn't seem worth it to me. The other features like aluminum pedals and the vortec generators don't make much difference too me one way or another.
Jim
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