I did see the gauge pack and thought that would be a good adder - maybe I'll add that to our car - not sure about the aluminum roof. I assume the curb weight would be less with the aluminum.

The dealer had two 04s which I was thinking about, but I decided to get the 05 to kind of 'split the difference' with an MR and at least get the extra HP/torque and limited slip front differential and ACD.

We put 150 miles on the car today and had a great time.

Jim

 

The ACD system does not have the reliablity problems that the early AYC systems had. The six speed does not change the top ration by much at all.

 

Just read all these pages. I agree with MARON. Good to see objective track times.

Lowering your evo is not the same as the lower cg of the MR. The mr has a lower cg but keeps the roll centers the same. The cg being closer to the roll centers applies less torque on the suspension when cornering. This is good for spring rates and sway bars. Lowering your evo(by shorter springs) lowers the cg but moves the roll centers farther away from the cg requiring stiffer springs and sway bars. Of course this is something that you would have to drive good enough to set the TTD to notice.

 

only six clamed but over 20 dyno proven.. but yes I see your point, its really up to the drivers.

 

ok...so my 03 has been destroyed. (not going to tell you how or why...don't even ask.)

but i am in the market for a new EVO. GSR or MR.....i am having such a hard time with this decision

 

Sorry about the bad news. Does this mean you're saling your stuff for a reasonable price?

 

I've driven both and the MR isa more satisfying car to drive. If cost is not an issue, then by all means the MR. Otherwise you can't go wrong with the GSR.

 

I don't agree with your autox comment. Having autocrossing both the GSR and the MR, I find the MR to stay spool and the power available quicker out of tight turns which to me is a lot more beneficial.

 

FYI,
All 05's make the same HP/TQ at the flywheel. So claims that the MR has more HP/TQ at the flywheel and are unfounded, and technically impossible. There is car to car variation which will be seen on the dyno, but MR's do not have special "pixy dust" which gives them more at the flywheel than any other '05. What you see at the wheel on a dyno may be different due to the 6 speed's gearing.

 

Agreed. Even then, as long as the ratio is as close to one to one as possible, the power should be the same. The pixy dust is the extra $5000 being spent to sweeting the lemon.

 

Which model did you end up with?

 

Yes my next Evo would be a graphite grey MR. Although I plan on being in a GT2 soon, so I will keep my Evo for daily driver.

 

when i purchased my evo in december i went with a '05 gsr instead of MR for the reasons that im going to be modding the suspension and i have no use really for a 6spd since im not going to be tracking the car.

 

i could have gotten an MR instead of the new eblue 05 gsr but why? don't need the fancy roof, wheels (yuck), & 6 speed (if you shift right you're always in the powerband). i was unable to justify the price hike not to mention i refuse to pay over $700/month for a 4 cyl car no matter what it is!!!!

 

NIce comments Maron.
You were comparing an 03 Gsr to the MR. if I'm not mistaken.
The 03 was lacking LSD and some performance improvements that the 05 GSR will share with the MR.

I prefer a 5 speed for autocross because it will tend to hold 2nd gear just a little longer and maybe avoid having to shift up and back in some places.

Is'nt it likely that the 05 GSR is alot closer to the MR than the 03 GSR?

Plus 5 seconds diference?! - might your driving skills be a big factor as well here?!