View Poll Results: Is the MR worth the extra money over the GSR?
Yup, ACD and 6-speed is a must!
501
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Nope, not worth the money.
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MR vs EVO: Is the MR edition worth it?
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From: Wyoming
What are some price ranges of the differences that I've read about? Bilstien shocks/suspension, 6 speed , graphite/aluminum alloy wheels (I've heard $3000 for set), vortex generators, Aluminum body parts, MR package (crome shifter/pedals). I'm not sure does all 05's have the new twin scroll turbo and acd? It's my understanding that the 6 speed has been out in Europe for several years.
I bought the MR for the 6 speed and the the fact that it's more unique than say the RS. Also it is only slightly faster than the others, but it is FASTER (at least on road course and above 60 mph). All things being equal from the factory. Like most of you I've read alot about what the car magazines have to say about it. If I had an 03/04 I'm not sure I would've traded up, but since I was gonna buy an Evo might as well be an MR.
I bought the MR for the 6 speed and the the fact that it's more unique than say the RS. Also it is only slightly faster than the others, but it is FASTER (at least on road course and above 60 mph). All things being equal from the factory. Like most of you I've read alot about what the car magazines have to say about it. If I had an 03/04 I'm not sure I would've traded up, but since I was gonna buy an Evo might as well be an MR.
I prefer driving my car to modding it. The MR has enough go for me on the streets but then again, I wouldn't race it on the streets. It's my daily driver, and an RS just wouldn't work - too bare. I don't have any regret for buying my MR. If I wanted a track car, I would buy the RS, and mod it.
Originally Posted by evoviiiyou
If you get an 03 for 25-28 k that gives you 5-7k to spend on upgrades. If pattient one can get a untitled 03 sold as new with financing in the low 3% range with good fico scores. With that much room to moddify, one would be able to spank an MR on track and street.
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From: New Zealand
I can't believe how cheap US-spec Evo's are compared to what we get (JDM).
Over here, for a used 03 Evo VIII JDM spec with AYC,ACD, 6-Speed etc you still pay 44k (about $32,560 USD) And for an FQ-300 (04 and 05 Re-badged for some stupid reason, equivalent to a JDM GSR) You pay $74,500 or $55,130 USD. Haven't seen any MR's here yet but the dealer's will start bringing them in soon.
Also, I've read in magazines that the US-spec is alot more fun to drive then the JDM as there isn't an AYC-equipped rear diff to limit the sideways action.
Judging by current trends though, I say if the US get's the Evo IX which is looking very likely that it will, you guys will probably get the option of the GT or GSR. AYC isn't a bad thing though, It makes the car a ****load faster through corners but It makes you think you're a far better driver than you really are. Bear in mind just about every circuit-spec evo racing in Japan doesn't use either of the computer-controlled systems.
Err, sorry...
Over here, for a used 03 Evo VIII JDM spec with AYC,ACD, 6-Speed etc you still pay 44k (about $32,560 USD) And for an FQ-300 (04 and 05 Re-badged for some stupid reason, equivalent to a JDM GSR) You pay $74,500 or $55,130 USD. Haven't seen any MR's here yet but the dealer's will start bringing them in soon.
Also, I've read in magazines that the US-spec is alot more fun to drive then the JDM as there isn't an AYC-equipped rear diff to limit the sideways action.
Judging by current trends though, I say if the US get's the Evo IX which is looking very likely that it will, you guys will probably get the option of the GT or GSR. AYC isn't a bad thing though, It makes the car a ****load faster through corners but It makes you think you're a far better driver than you really are. Bear in mind just about every circuit-spec evo racing in Japan doesn't use either of the computer-controlled systems.
Err, sorry...
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From: Frederick, MD
sorry but i think this is a no brainer. The MR is just not worth the extra 4k+. Its mitsu's way of adding some "glamour" to a Evo to make ppl with that extra bit of money spend it.
There are really no upgrades on the MR if you look at the comparision chart to a 05 evo VIII that are worth even close to the additional money. The suspension is worth somthing but you can get that aftermarket for SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Other than that its all bling... and a 6spd that you will not use.
There are really no upgrades on the MR if you look at the comparision chart to a 05 evo VIII that are worth even close to the additional money. The suspension is worth somthing but you can get that aftermarket for SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Other than that its all bling... and a 6spd that you will not use.
I just picked up an 05 GSR last week for 29400 and could have had the MR for 33500.......... I choise the GSR for a only 1 reasons.
I did not want to pay the extra money for things I would be replaceing. IE wheels and suspension. With the engine and driveline (sans 6 speed) the same it was not worth the added expense IMO.
NOW. If I where going to buy a car and leave it 100% stock, I would have picked the MR.
My .02 cents
Matt Jensen
I did not want to pay the extra money for things I would be replaceing. IE wheels and suspension. With the engine and driveline (sans 6 speed) the same it was not worth the added expense IMO.
NOW. If I where going to buy a car and leave it 100% stock, I would have picked the MR.
My .02 cents
Matt Jensen
Originally Posted by unowned
I just bought my 05 Base Evo and had a chance to get the MR, but i really couldn't justify it for just a 6spd, and AL roof because i'm swaping the wheels, headlights (Hid version), suspension and adding the vortex generator with aftermarket parts even if i had the MR so it definately was not worth the 5k price hike.
I'm not going to address the wisdom of such a move, but if you were going to do that, the MR is clearly not for you at any price
Originally Posted by Kevine326
sorry but i think this is a no brainer. The MR is just not worth the extra 4k+. Its mitsu's way of adding some "glamour" to a Evo to make ppl with that extra bit of money spend it.
There are really no upgrades on the MR if you look at the comparision chart to a 05 evo VIII that are worth even close to the additional money. The suspension is worth somthing but you can get that aftermarket for SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Other than that its all bling... and a 6spd that you will not use.
There are really no upgrades on the MR if you look at the comparision chart to a 05 evo VIII that are worth even close to the additional money. The suspension is worth somthing but you can get that aftermarket for SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Other than that its all bling... and a 6spd that you will not use.
Also, have you priced a set of Bilstein shock absorbers for the MR? I think you are talking from a position of abismal ignorance. If you don't want the MR because of the price or just because you don't like it, that's fine. But to say it's not worth the extra money because it has "no upgrades" is preposterous.
Oh yeah, how do you figure you wont use the 6 speed transmission? And what do you mean by "bling"? If one follows your line of reasoning, the EVO is mitsu's way of adding some "glamour" to a Lancer to make ppl with that extra bit of money spend it.
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From: Frederick, MD
Originally Posted by silverEVO8
Have you actually driven an MR? ... Better yet, have you even driven a GSR or RS?
Also, have you priced a set of Bilstein shock absorbers for the MR? I think you are talking from a position of abismal ignorance. If you don't want the MR because of the price or just because you don't like it, that's fine. But to say it's not worth the extra money because it has "no upgrades" is preposterous.
Oh yeah, how do you figure you wont use the 6 speed transmission? And what do you mean by "bling"? If one follows your line of reasoning, the EVO is mitsu's way of adding some "glamour" to a Lancer to make ppl with that extra bit of money spend it.
Also, have you priced a set of Bilstein shock absorbers for the MR? I think you are talking from a position of abismal ignorance. If you don't want the MR because of the price or just because you don't like it, that's fine. But to say it's not worth the extra money because it has "no upgrades" is preposterous.
Oh yeah, how do you figure you wont use the 6 speed transmission? And what do you mean by "bling"? If one follows your line of reasoning, the EVO is mitsu's way of adding some "glamour" to a Lancer to make ppl with that extra bit of money spend it.
Your primary point are the Bilstein shock absorbers and the 6 spd? ok. I searched and searched online for a price for Evo bilstein shock absorbers and couldnt find any.. must be a toolbox! But I figured what the hell, lets price em for a Porche!
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From: Frederick, MD
I found Bilstein shock absorbers for a 2004 Porche 911/966 Carrera/2 for $301.30 a set.
Obviously that is only for one set... so lets make it 2! Are you going to tell me the evo ones cost more than $600... what a carrera spends? Lets say SURE.. so we give you $1000 for the suspension to be liberal.. JUST on that one piece! That leaves 3k'ish.
tranny - a 6pd!!! ooohhh ahhhh. So you can go faster on the top end.. 140+. Seriously when are you going to do that or how often? Only other benefit I can see is you might save a lil on gas {YES!} .... thats your tranny.... people who look at performance parts and mod cars arent going to **** 3k down the drain for that.
There is NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!
So the price difference is approx 4k of which you get an allowance of 1k for JUST the Bilstein shock absorbers. That leaves 3k to mod your VIII. Do you know what you can do with that engine and 3k??????????????????????????????????
My point remains that for the additional 4k it is plain out just not worth it to the performance enthusiast. If you have 4k just sitting around at home or parents give you a fat allowance to blow SURE go ahead spend that extra money for the "bling" and yes thats what it is.
from edmunds review of the car:
If you're into exclusivity, the MR's special interior trim and exclusive gray color might get you some attention, but don't expect anyone but a hard-core Evo fan to notice. Since no pricing was announced at the time of our drive, we can't say for sure whether the new MR is worth the extra money, but for those who will do anything to get their hands on the ultimate Evo, the couple extra grand (est.) probably won't be much of a deterrent.
Obviously that is only for one set... so lets make it 2! Are you going to tell me the evo ones cost more than $600... what a carrera spends? Lets say SURE.. so we give you $1000 for the suspension to be liberal.. JUST on that one piece! That leaves 3k'ish.
tranny - a 6pd!!! ooohhh ahhhh. So you can go faster on the top end.. 140+. Seriously when are you going to do that or how often? Only other benefit I can see is you might save a lil on gas {YES!} .... thats your tranny.... people who look at performance parts and mod cars arent going to **** 3k down the drain for that.
There is NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!
So the price difference is approx 4k of which you get an allowance of 1k for JUST the Bilstein shock absorbers. That leaves 3k to mod your VIII. Do you know what you can do with that engine and 3k??????????????????????????????????
My point remains that for the additional 4k it is plain out just not worth it to the performance enthusiast. If you have 4k just sitting around at home or parents give you a fat allowance to blow SURE go ahead spend that extra money for the "bling" and yes thats what it is.
from edmunds review of the car:
If you're into exclusivity, the MR's special interior trim and exclusive gray color might get you some attention, but don't expect anyone but a hard-core Evo fan to notice. Since no pricing was announced at the time of our drive, we can't say for sure whether the new MR is worth the extra money, but for those who will do anything to get their hands on the ultimate Evo, the couple extra grand (est.) probably won't be much of a deterrent.
Originally Posted by silverEVO8
Let me get this right, you would have swapped the wheels, suspension and the HID lights in the MR anyway? Also, you were going to replace the vortex generator with an aftermarket unit?
I'm not going to address the wisdom of such a move, but if you were going to do that, the MR is clearly not for you at any price
I'm not going to address the wisdom of such a move, but if you were going to do that, the MR is clearly not for you at any price
Your prices on Bilsteins are off somehow. Find the price for the OEM Bilsteins for the MR and we'll discuss that. Anyway, the MR is not just a GSR with a 6 speed tranny and Bilstein shocks (good as they are). If you gauge a car by how fast it runs in the 1/4 mile you just threw away a bunch of money with your EVO
The MR is definitely not for you. Be glad you did not get one. There is no way somebody with all your prejudice could ever appreciate that car. I had a highly modified '03 EVO, I traded in on my new MR and I'm ver happy with it. The rest of you who are hating a car you do not own are just blowing smoke
The MR is definitely not for you. Be glad you did not get one. There is no way somebody with all your prejudice could ever appreciate that car. I had a highly modified '03 EVO, I traded in on my new MR and I'm ver happy with it. The rest of you who are hating a car you do not own are just blowing smoke
Originally Posted by Kevine326
I found Bilstein shock absorbers for a 2004 Porche 911/966 Carrera/2 for $301.30 a set.
Obviously that is only for one set... so lets make it 2! Are you going to tell me the evo ones cost more than $600... what a carrera spends? Lets say SURE.. so we give you $1000 for the suspension to be liberal.. JUST on that one piece! That leaves 3k'ish.
tranny - a 6pd!!! ooohhh ahhhh. So you can go faster on the top end.. 140+. Seriously when are you going to do that or how often? Only other benefit I can see is you might save a lil on gas {YES!} .... thats your tranny.... people who look at performance parts and mod cars arent going to **** 3k down the drain for that.
There is NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!
So the price difference is approx 4k of which you get an allowance of 1k for JUST the Bilstein shock absorbers. That leaves 3k to mod your VIII. Do you know what you can do with that engine and 3k??????????????????????????????????
My point remains that for the additional 4k it is plain out just not worth it to the performance enthusiast. If you have 4k just sitting around at home or parents give you a fat allowance to blow SURE go ahead spend that extra money for the "bling" and yes thats what it is.
from edmunds review of the car:
If you're into exclusivity, the MR's special interior trim and exclusive gray color might get you some attention, but don't expect anyone but a hard-core Evo fan to notice. Since no pricing was announced at the time of our drive, we can't say for sure whether the new MR is worth the extra money, but for those who will do anything to get their hands on the ultimate Evo, the couple extra grand (est.) probably won't be much of a deterrent.
Obviously that is only for one set... so lets make it 2! Are you going to tell me the evo ones cost more than $600... what a carrera spends? Lets say SURE.. so we give you $1000 for the suspension to be liberal.. JUST on that one piece! That leaves 3k'ish.
tranny - a 6pd!!! ooohhh ahhhh. So you can go faster on the top end.. 140+. Seriously when are you going to do that or how often? Only other benefit I can see is you might save a lil on gas {YES!} .... thats your tranny.... people who look at performance parts and mod cars arent going to **** 3k down the drain for that.
There is NOTHING ELSE!!!!!!!
So the price difference is approx 4k of which you get an allowance of 1k for JUST the Bilstein shock absorbers. That leaves 3k to mod your VIII. Do you know what you can do with that engine and 3k??????????????????????????????????
My point remains that for the additional 4k it is plain out just not worth it to the performance enthusiast. If you have 4k just sitting around at home or parents give you a fat allowance to blow SURE go ahead spend that extra money for the "bling" and yes thats what it is.
from edmunds review of the car:
If you're into exclusivity, the MR's special interior trim and exclusive gray color might get you some attention, but don't expect anyone but a hard-core Evo fan to notice. Since no pricing was announced at the time of our drive, we can't say for sure whether the new MR is worth the extra money, but for those who will do anything to get their hands on the ultimate Evo, the couple extra grand (est.) probably won't be much of a deterrent.
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From: Frederick, MD
Originally Posted by silverEVO8
Your prices on Bilsteins are off somehow. Find the price for the OEM Bilsteins for the MR and we'll discuss that. Anyway, the MR is not just a GSR with a 6 speed tranny and Bilstein shocks (good as they are). If you gauge a car by how fast it runs in the 1/4 mile you just threw away a bunch of money with your EVO
The MR is definitely not for you. Be glad you did not get one. There is no way somebody with all your prejudice could ever appreciate that car. I had a highly modified '03 EVO, I traded in on my new MR and I'm ver happy with it. The rest of you who are hating a car you do not own are just blowing smoke
The MR is definitely not for you. Be glad you did not get one. There is no way somebody with all your prejudice could ever appreciate that car. I had a highly modified '03 EVO, I traded in on my new MR and I'm ver happy with it. The rest of you who are hating a car you do not own are just blowing smoke
I guage a car by its overall performance; and 1/4 mile times are one of those.... along with track times, braking, etc. You stated the MR is not just a VIII with a 6 spd and the bilstein's..... ok so what else does it have performance wise that makes it worth the money???
I am glad I didnt get one. I am not hating on the MR... I pointing out the practicality of NOT spending the 4k on it as it would be a waste if you are actually interested in performance. When you can prove to me that the MR is actually worth the 4k in performance I will applaud your decision to spend the money. Otherwise, its 4k that could have been better spent than on the "bling" you get.