What changes do you all think the '04 Evo will have, if any? I think it would make obvious sense for them to add AYC/ACD to it (even if its just an option), since Subaru has the DCCD system on their '04 STi. The only problem with this of course, is that current Evo owners might get angry at such a huge change.

Also...when do you think the '04 Evos will come out? Usually 04's come out in the middle of the previous year...but the '03 Evo came out so late they would probably have to wait a bit...

What do you guys think?

 

Yeah,
1. ACD yes, AYC too much maintance for us
2. Front LSD.
3. GSR's semi auto climate with 2 dins optional.
4. At least 305hp perhaps 2.3L

That's what i think anyways. But i also though ACD will be provided on my current evo but Mitsubishi didn't think that was important factor in sales and didn't care about the comments by the media like "stripped, watered" and so forth.

Thanks to STi we are going to get RAlliArt support so we could close the gap on horspower war against subaru If i have to sell my car i have to sell my car. But remember the #1 people on the list are your most loyal customers and pissing them off is not a good idea So please offer ralliart support right before subaur's release.

 

Has Mitsubishi ever changed the trim or performance appointments in the Evo and not changed the number designation? I don't think they have.

If that is true, I wouldn't expect any changes to the car at all until the Evo IX appears....

SC

 

I don't see the point of adding new features a year AFTER its released. Its not cost-efficient to do so in my opinion. Besides, who cares if it doesn't have ACD, AYC, and a 6spd. Enjoy the car for what it is!

 

For all you know your car could have them right now (not saying it does of course), but you're probably not gonna be able to tell a difference. Unless of course you drive your car like you're on a racetrack every day

 

OK, the least the could do is move the LSD to the front, ACD in the back and up the Hp a bit. It would be great to have the 6 speed, but one could always import that from japan.

 

2004 you will get the ACD AYC units + 330hp It will be the rallie art evo

 

We will also see the 6speed box and a diferent wing option,trust me, know what there doin

 

Evo Specialist. Where did you get that info? Why should we trust you?

SC~

 

He's probably some salesman spouting out nonsensical comments. Not to uncommon in the salesman world...........

 

I dont think there going to make any changes for the 2004 and 2005 models, I think once they develop the Evolution for 2006 then they will start to put electronic differentials, bigger horsepower numbers, etc.. etc...

Remember, A fair amount of R & D has to go into the product before they hit the market place.

 

Myabe he is reffering to the Evolution RS? It may be a rumour, but I've read about it in a few places (and we all know that makes it true on the internet ). Something like 330, ACD/AYC, 6spd, but no amenities like pwr locks, windows, stereo, etc.

Anyone have any solid info on this trim level in the US?

 

Isn't this the same guy last year that said "he knew and trust him" that that mysterious button was the ACD for the USDM 8??

 

EVO SPECIALIST has been saying for a while now that next year the Evo will get performance upgrades. I wouldn't be so quick to call BS on him. Though I'm not saying that I believe him...

 

So, where o where is RalliArt..or where or where can he be??

 

Maybe he's just guessing and baiting you guys. Don't fall for it. Unless he's a CEO....he doesn't know.

 

Heres some interesting stuff, too bad its Japanese

http://www.poweraxel.com/ralliart/ca...vo8/index.html

 

I'm a Newbie to the forum, first post and thinking of an Evo 8 purchase within the next month or two.

My Question is anybody have any insight into this FQ320 Upgrade or anything new for the 2004 models and is this something that won't be coming to the US?

Just in case anybody missed it the "Car" magazine May issue 489 has a Evo Ad (This has the FQ320 Upgrade I'm talking about), "Serial Killer" article on the Evo and a WRX STI and Evo comparison.

Thanks from a newbie

 

inside mits info.............
03 evo viii rs
312-319 hp
optional ayc
immediate release of upgrade chip for ecu (350-368 hp)
this could all change but reliable inside mits friends say "its being designed as we speek"
believe me or dont. im looking forward to it. oh and no pricing at this point.

 

Kinda. The current Evo that we have here in America is an Evo VIII, but they shafted us on the ACD/AYC. So, they could still add these upgraded parts next year, which would be a different trim than what we've got now, and it would still be an VIII. Of course, in America, we're too stupid to know that it's an VIII, it's just "Lancer Evolution" here.

However, I'm waiting for upgrades to the head and intake on the 4G63. This would be a good way to go for the IX, in my opinion. So many other cars now have variable valve timing, variable intakes, etc. Perhaps we'll get these toys with the IX.

The Evo is a 2.0L four cylinder, four door car. I think it's kinda cool that this 2-liter kicks so much ***, why change it? I don't understand why people always say on their "Evo Wish Lists" that they want 2 doors, V6, etc. Extract more out of it as is, we all know it can be done practically and reliably. Look at the DSMs that put down so much power on stock bottom-ends that aren't even as tough as Evo bottom-ends. Imagine how fun it would be to see the Evo, still in 2.0L form, beating up on the 2.5L STi.

 

It never ends!! I bought my 8 and couldn't wait to start voiding my warranty. And in the next couple of years I'm sure I'll get rid of this one in order to get the newer version and continue the cycle. The only thing that's disheartening is the fact that as soon as you buy something, a newer, better version shows up a few months later. It's like CPUs. But if you wait for the "newest, badest" product you'll end up dead with a million dollars not ever having bought anything. Buy it, tune it, race it/show it, dump it...on to the next project!!!

 

where i bought my evo from, mu buddy said for certain that the 2004 evo will have a 6th gear... ionno... sounds too, appealing

 

this is why i didnt buy one. i know that if i wait a couple years it will be twicw as bad *** and probably the same price. thats the price you pay for being the first on the block. the third and fourth on the block have better product than you !!

 

IS the upgarde for the regular EVO VIII or the RS. I'd be extremely pissed if does the RS without giving the original evo owners chance to upgrade with warranty. any thoughts on timing?? AYC i don't care about as not really into racing it, just want more POWER.

 

 

Just to get this straight, the inside scoop is that the 04's will have(Maybe ):

6 Spd
New Interior Trim
Diff missing in the current US cars
320+ HP

Hmmm

I have such a hard time waiting

 

whered you get 2.3 from???? mitsu has never offered that displacement on anything, more likely 2.4...... how sweet would it be if they did a MIVEC head along with the higher displacement and actually offered an ecu that doesnt throw in twice as much fuel as is necessary, seeing as the sooby just got a 2.5 with variable valve timing, the evo would be so ridiculously mean with a MIVEC & turbo engine, 8000rpm redline... 375hp at 7500rpm, 380lb/ft tq at 3750 rpm argh!!.... it would compete with the viper at the 1/4track and the zo6 would be trying to hang, in fact, i think it would be untouchable especially with acd even though it really doesnt need that- one drive can prove that much... ok im over it... but it was fun expressing my dreams

 

I think will have some kind of change for 2004. Yes, it would make sense for them to wait until the next product change, but you have to understand this battle with the Sti involves pride, and you know how people get when that happens. Got to one up someone as quickly as possible. It's human nature, especially with Subaru taking the wind out of 's sails only 4 days after the Evo unveiling. I could be wrong, but my gut says I'm right.

 

Why do some of you guys persist in thinking that people who race would want ACD/AYC? Electronic driver aids frighten most racers because they induce handling behavior that is often unpredictable or just plain slower. These systems also require constant maintenance, are unreliable and add weight. In a stock car, I don't know one racer who would'nt turn these systems off before trying to put in a hot lap. Enough of this BS.
Cheers,

 

yea, guys, they ahve changed trtim appointments, helloo, its right under ur noses, what u think the GT-A is??

 

That's certainly true of normal cars - but the ACD/AYC on the EVOs was developed by racers, for racers - in Japan a lot more poeple track their cars than here in the US, so cars like the EVO, STi, GTR, are designed for the track. Plus racers like Best Motoring and some of the British mags say the European EVO VIII is much faster on the track with the new systems. It's also much faster than the US EVO, on the track.
For just about any other car, where these systems are designed to slow you down, not make you faster - you are correct.

 

You have to remember that we in the US do not have a number designation just plain EVO. The rest of the world got the EVO VIII. can add what ever they want and not upset their numbering convention.

 

New Lancer Sportback Wagon coming in 2004. Too bad no EVO version.

The Sportback’s new Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing and Electronic Control (MIVEC) 2.4-liter engine will elicit 160 hp, or 162 hp in a factory-tuner Ralliart version, with its varying intake valves and alloy heads.

Ralliart Lancer also has new spoiler without center upright. Should be direct bolt-on replacement for EVO owners who desire a low spoiler option.

 

Have you checked out your window sticker lately? It says Lancer Evolution VIII right on it. It just that there aren't any badges on the car designating it as an VIII. The Japanese Evo VIII is the same way. As for the UK version, I've seen it 2 ways: Lancer in the lower left with the Evolutuion VIII in the center of the trunklid or in the same manner as the Japanese Evo.

 

You are correct. Furthermore, the owner's manualsand floor mats are also marked EVO VIII.

MMC Japan website calls theirs the EVO VIII and posts the following notes:

* Specification and names are for the Japanese domestic market.
* Some of the vehicles shown here are exported worldwide, with specifications and fittings matched to the local market. Those specifications and fittings that are not shown here.
* For vehicles available and their specifications for your market, please visit your local Mitsubishi distributor website.

Following corporate guidance, I went to the US local mitsubishi distributor website and guess what? No EVO VIII. MMNA's local market name is specified as Lancer Evolution.

Case closed.

 

I dont' understand. Didn't the normally asperated 4G63 in the galent a long time ago have 160hp. I mean now it's 2.4L Variable valvetrain and only 160hp? Other variable valvetrain cars with 1.6L like the civic SI has just as much HP. Why so low on power for 2.4L? I dont' care how variable, a 2.4L with 160hp is a joke. I'm not impressed sorry

 

What case?

Japan calls theirs the VIII but it still doesn't say it anywhere on the car (other than floor mats, etc.)

If you look a little closer on the US website, you'll find the Lancer Evolution Microsite. In it the Evo is referred to as both the Lancer Evolution and the Lancer Evolution VIII.

So the point is that you can call it whatever you want. It's an Evo VIII or just an Evo.

 

For NA cars, in order to increase the Torque at low RPM
(for example, 163/4000 RPM peak for a 165hp car) , they have to design the egine that way.
I know this because Subaru 2.5RS is the same way
Ford Mustang GT has a large engine, but the HP isn't that high, maybe it's designed the same way too, but I don't know for sure.

 

The '94 Galant GS had a 4G64 DOHC that made 160hp, no VVT though.
The new Honda 2.4l in the Accord "only" makes 160hp too. The 2.5l in the Altima makes 175hp... The 1.6l MIVEC in the Mirage Cyborg would never have made it past emissions and you would have needed 100 octane fuel...

 

Does anybody have any links to MIVEC info sites? All I can find is a couple paragraphs on the Corporate Web Site, as well as some of the different applications and displacements. Seeing as though I live here in the US, I don't know much about it and I'm trying to read up on it.