True the idea of it as a track/rally car is a nice thought but now a days people want an everday driver and something they can take to the track on weekends all in one. The only people that are willing to spend 26k on that car as just a track/ rally car are established business men in there 30's to mid 40's that are die hard rally racing fans and young teenagers. Teens dont have any money so they look to there parents and they make a decision on wether or not to buy them the car. The fact that its stripped of alot of things will turn parents off from buying it. So in all who is left that will actually buy this car? Adults that have 26k to buy this car will have no interest in it.

So the question still remains why make this car?

I say the real reason for this car is to cut down on Mitsu's warranty repairs. If you take all the electronic toys out of a Mitsu, there's much fewer things to break and need replacing under warranty. And if you race it the Mitsu dealers will void the warranty anyway

 

do u have performance specs for the car, like 0-60 time, 1/4 ... hp...

or is it all still the same as the regular evo?

 

I think the horsepower is the same and 0-60 times are the same also. All it is just a EVO without the goodies.

So it still leaves the question why?!!! Mitsubishi can be really stupid sometimes worrying about cars that dont need changing. They need to worry about the other cars in there line-up, cuz the rest of them besides the EVO suck!!!!!!!!

 

i wouldn't get this...this is like getting a civic dx

 

Prob. Gonna be diff, tho I iono any times yet, I dun even think its released in the states yet.

 

Hey hey.... CIVIC DX? what the heck man. No evo is a freakin civic dude. Come on now... The reason why mitsu making only 700 units is to test the US market. Hey, maybe there are ppl out there that want the RS. But I can see this whole idea is a bad one. Like many here, I would rather see the evolution MR then an RS. Since the EVO GSR has been doing great here, they should upted the compition and bring over the MR. And make the MR only available to the US market. I think that would be a more worth while venture. What do you guys think? Peace...

 

whats the evo MR?

 

The RS is made so people who want to actually use their Evos for the purpose that it was designed for (rally race) or even for purposes that it has proven itself to be good at (tarmac track, auto-x, or even <gasp> drag racing) can get a car without all of the expensive, weight adding goodies that make it comfortably streetable. They'll just rip all of that stuff out anyway, so why not save a few thousand and use that to get a head start on modding the car? This is truly a car for the enthusiast, not for the average Joe who wants a decently comfortable fast car that he can have fun in and still use to run errands around town, or for the boy-racer who wants a fast car so he can impress his friends while still maintaining a decently high level of creature comfort. Not to say that the current Evo is a luxury car by any standards, but you have to agree that having A/C on a race car makes no sense at all. That's why Mitsubishi has made the RS in Japan in the past, and why they are making a foray into the newly opened NA market now.

The Evo MR (Mitsubishi Racing) is a higher performance version of the Evo that was recently unveiled by Mitsu. So far production is limited to Japan. Do a search and come up with the actual thread if you want to read more about it.

 

apparently the US RS is a better version of the japanese one.. or at least a fully loaded one... minus the wing

 

Both the RS America and E36 M3 LTW are highly sought after by PCA and BMW CCA club racers. A street driver will have no use for a car like that.

Those of you who don't track your cars may find it hard to believe, but losing 100-150 lbs of weight makes a huge difference in lap times...especially in the case of the M3 where most of that weight loss was in the front half of the car.

The effect of losing that much weight and improving the weight distribution is much bigger than, say, a 5-10% increase in HP. Those of you spending several grand to get 20-30 hp more out of your Evos might be surprised to find that pulling out some unnecessary weight will have the same effect on your lap times without affectind drivability/longevity!

Plus, many of us who track our cars find ABS a distinct disadvantage in many situations. I pull the ABS relay on my E30 track car before heading out on the circuit. The Evo 8 RS, like the Porsche RS America and BMW E36 M3 LTW you mention, is designed for track guys and I'm sure Mitsu will have no trouble selling a few hundred of them.

Emre

 

Stripped out street cars, usually homologation specials or clubsport cars like Porsche RS lightweight, M3 lightweight, Evo RS are the drug of choice for those in the know. Everything that detracts from the driving experience is removed and the feedback and the tactile inputs from the car change when weight and sound deadening are removed. And as noted above, the dynamic qualities of the car on a road course w/ such a loss of weight change beyond belief.

I have fond memories of the plastic coated steel cable door opener on the early Porsche 2.7 RS lightweight. My own personal drug of choice is an Alfa Giulia Sprint GTA, a lightweight aluminum bodied homologation special that lost some 400 pounds to its almost identical looking street cousins. Even though built in the late 60's, it's still a thrilling ride - street or track.

Anybody who has driven anything made by Lotus (yes there were also some dogs) will also understand: eg, an early Elite or a new Elise.

 

In the know...that's a good one..like a stripped down limited production car would be like a BIG SECRET or something..

Fact is, any RACER knows weight is an enemy on the track..that's like racing 101, right?

If the new RS EVO was unique in some way from a technology standpoint, or was offered with race parts to install (like the E36 M3 Lightweight) then I would wholeheartedly agree with you..

BTW The RS Porsche is sought after for the same reasons other Porsche's are sought after..LIMITED PRODUCTION. Plus, on that one there is actually a performance differnce from the stock 911..Same with the E36 Lightweight..

Did you read the article on the RS?? The performance difference is like NON EXISTENT. You could remove your spare tire on e regular EVO, get the small battery and some other tidbits and be like at the same weight reduction or close to!!

The EVO RS is a stripped down car with NO options, I mean come on, where is the brain science here..

 

So that one could also remove spare, get small batt and other
stuff to the RS to further reduce weight??

 

Good point..Taken.

So I have decided to get the RS, strip it down even more by removing ALL KINDS of ****, and put my 115 pound WIFE behind the wheel!!

The MR model will outperform the RS and the RS is lighter..WHY? Because the MR is more ADVANCED than the RS..

Same argument would be what if you stripped the MR?? Which one would perform better? The MR? THE RS??

I think we know which one..The MR due to its advanced engineering not REVERSE engineering..

I think that should continue the evolution of the EVO by continuing upward instead of backward..

The MR represents ALL that should happen with next years model...The RS represents a "cop out" by by introducing a car that has already been produced overseas for a year or so, and is in no way "evolved" from what we have here as a US Model..ESPECIALLY to be billed as a brand "NEW" 2004 Model..(yeah, right)

Time for a poll to see the consenses here..

 

The RS is stripped so people can buy their own stuff. Maybe they don't like Brembos, so they go out and by AP stuff.

Maybe they don't like the USDM Recaros (I know I don't.. the leg bolsters aren't nearly as effective), so they'll get their own seats.

Maybe they don't like the wing, they'll buy their own too.

It's a barebones package for people wanting to customize to their own needs. That's what the RS is. It's not supposed to be the end all be all Evo.

If you head over to MLR, most Evo4-6 owners remove the AYC if at all possible. The thing's a piece of junk. Unfortunately for 7 and 8 owners, the system is integrated with ACD so it's that much more difficult to remove, if at all possible.

The RS has been produced for who knows how long, since Evo4 at least. The fact is, the concept of buying a barebones and customizing it works - which is why Mitsu is bringing it here.

The MR, on the other hand - how many people can say they'll ever actually know the difference between an AYC/ACD equipped Evo vs a non? I sure as hell probably won't, even though I autox. Unless you're a pro driver and do this for a living and drive at 10/10 all the damn time, you'd never know.