Help...CP9A/Evo 5 - No speedo
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Help...CP9A/Evo 5 - No speedo
Hey Guys,
I was driving along the other day and all of a sudden lost my speed on my speedo...
I checked output from the speed sensor and its all ok, does anybody know which wire provides the dash cluster with the speed signal??
There are a number of plugs but I have no clue where to start...
Any help would be great.
Cheers
I was driving along the other day and all of a sudden lost my speed on my speedo...
I checked output from the speed sensor and its all ok, does anybody know which wire provides the dash cluster with the speed signal??
There are a number of plugs but I have no clue where to start...
Any help would be great.
Cheers
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while that sounds great to have no speedo its a real pain... don't want any tickets...
ground all seems to be fine, everything else in the cluster is working perfectly... :S
does anybody have the pinouts?
ground all seems to be fine, everything else in the cluster is working perfectly... :S
does anybody have the pinouts?
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Intermittent or non-working Speedometer
Cars affected: Ralliart UK * supplied Evos 5/6 & TME
Cars affected: Ralliart UK * supplied Evos 5/6 & TME
Symptom:
The Speedometer either flickers or just does not register any speed. It is
usually only a temporary fault but can end up as permanent failure.This can be due to a couple of reasons.
The main reason for an intermittent or totally non-working Speedometer is that the
electrical connector on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox can become
water logged (especially if you have washed the engine bay, never wash the engine
bay!) and is shorting out. This stops the signal reaching the Speedometer.
To cure this fault you need to open the connection, dry it out, make sure it is not
corroded and reconnect.
The second reason is due to a faulty kph to mph converter.
This is mainly a problem due to the type of converter used and this pretty much only
affects the early Ralliart cars (E5/6). The converters on these early cars consist of a
rectangular grey plastic box that is either screwed or stuck onto the engine bulkhead
(see photo, note the exact position on the bulkhead may vary). Due to vibration they
can eventually fail and stop the signal reaching the Speedometer.The main reason for an intermittent or totally non-working Speedometer is that the
electrical connector on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox can become
water logged (especially if you have washed the engine bay, never wash the engine
bay!) and is shorting out. This stops the signal reaching the Speedometer.
To cure this fault you need to open the connection, dry it out, make sure it is not
corroded and reconnect.
The second reason is due to a faulty kph to mph converter.
This is mainly a problem due to the type of converter used and this pretty much only
affects the early Ralliart cars (E5/6). The converters on these early cars consist of a
rectangular grey plastic box that is either screwed or stuck onto the engine bulkhead
(see photo, note the exact position on the bulkhead may vary). Due to vibration they
The cure is to replace the converter for a later version that is mounted inline straight
on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox.
on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox.
Approximate cost of repair:
Approx £100 to replace converter (FOC if still under
warranty)
warranty)
* Ralliart UK now trading as Xtreme Autos
send me an email address i can send the photo to
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Thanks for the reply.
Car has no converter as its a JDM E5 and I live in Japan! its really bizarre as It has speed signal, at the sensor, but i dont know if its getting to the cluster... you dont happen to know which wire carries the signal in to the cluster or where they split after they come through the firewall to trace it?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Regards,
Brent
Symptom:
Car has no converter as its a JDM E5 and I live in Japan! its really bizarre as It has speed signal, at the sensor, but i dont know if its getting to the cluster... you dont happen to know which wire carries the signal in to the cluster or where they split after they come through the firewall to trace it?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Regards,
Brent
Intermittent or non-working Speedometer
Cars affected: Ralliart UK * supplied Evos 5/6 & TME
Cars affected: Ralliart UK * supplied Evos 5/6 & TME
Symptom:
The Speedometer either flickers or just does not register any speed. It is
usually only a temporary fault but can end up as permanent failure.
usually only a temporary fault but can end up as permanent failure.
This can be due to a couple of reasons.
The main reason for an intermittent or totally non-working Speedometer is that the
electrical connector on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox can become
water logged (especially if you have washed the engine bay, never wash the engine
bay!) and is shorting out. This stops the signal reaching the Speedometer.
To cure this fault you need to open the connection, dry it out, make sure it is not
corroded and reconnect.
The second reason is due to a faulty kph to mph converter.
This is mainly a problem due to the type of converter used and this pretty much only
affects the early Ralliart cars (E5/6). The converters on these early cars consist of a
rectangular grey plastic box that is either screwed or stuck onto the engine bulkhead
(see photo, note the exact position on the bulkhead may vary). Due to vibration they
can eventually fail and stop the signal reaching the Speedometer.The main reason for an intermittent or totally non-working Speedometer is that the
electrical connector on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox can become
water logged (especially if you have washed the engine bay, never wash the engine
bay!) and is shorting out. This stops the signal reaching the Speedometer.
To cure this fault you need to open the connection, dry it out, make sure it is not
corroded and reconnect.
The second reason is due to a faulty kph to mph converter.
This is mainly a problem due to the type of converter used and this pretty much only
affects the early Ralliart cars (E5/6). The converters on these early cars consist of a
rectangular grey plastic box that is either screwed or stuck onto the engine bulkhead
(see photo, note the exact position on the bulkhead may vary). Due to vibration they
The cure is to replace the converter for a later version that is mounted inline straight
on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox.
Approximate cost of repair:
on the Speedometer drive gear on the gearbox.
Approximate cost of repair:
Approx £100 to replace converter (FOC if still under
send me an email address i can send the photo to
warranty)
* Ralliart UK now trading as Xtreme Autossend me an email address i can send the photo to
If you're certain the speed signal is making it to the cluster, then check the power with a multimeter. I have a CN9A cluster in my Mirage (CJ chassis) with no issues at all, though it looks to be an issue with CP9A clusters only according to S0rc3r3r's post. Those pinouts are somewhere on Mirageforums I know, cause that's what I used for the install in my Rage.
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www.mirageforums.net I'll see if I can find the thread later today. It's 6:30am and I just got home from work. I'm beat LOL.
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man that would be awesome! in the mean time I will check it out! its only 825pm here in Japan! 
I just got home from work too..
If you know anyone who needs parts from JP let me know!
I just got home from work too..If you know anyone who needs parts from JP let me know!
www.mirageforums.net I'll see if I can find the thread later today. It's 6:30am and I just got home from work. I'm beat LOL.
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there is so so so much stuff on that forum... i found a heap of manuals etc, but nothing that I could pinpoint to the dash cluster of a CP9A
Any help would be appreciated dude.
Cheers
Any help would be appreciated dude.
Cheers
www.mirageforums.net I'll see if I can find the thread later today. It's 6:30am and I just got home from work. I'm beat LOL.
Cool, glad you got it figured out! Hey man, not drop by on there sometime, there's alot of stuff on there relating to older Evo's and I'm sure my friends on there would love to see a real V haha.
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