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Old Jan 10, 2011, 03:19 PM
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Installed cams car won't start :(

*********SOLVED************** Exhaust cam angle sensor was 45 degrees off..

Hello all,

Quick overview:
1. I bought hks 272 cams ( mivec)
2. I had all the necessary tools.
3. I installed the new cams, had a lot of trouble starting.
4. Finally started ran fine. started a couple more times.
5. Now will not start.

Ok first I am almost 100% sure my timining is perfect. Example of cams.



Although I couldn't get a camera down close enough to take a picture of the crank pully the white mark lined up with the " T" or cross indicator.



I figured it was my cam sensor internals got flipped so I reset them according to the "evo service guide" specs. Still nothing.

Car read P0335 for bank a cam sensor, p0340 also a cam sensor. then I got p0360 for the crank angle sensor.

I got the car to start then decided to play around with the cam sensors and made a little video. Just so you know my valves don't sound like they do in the video, My garage was almost closed and my car sounds like a tractor from behind lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwpjB86NsBQ

noticed that It didn't matter if both in/ex sensors were unplugged it still ran. So I know my crank sensor is still good.

I decided to switch my exhaust sensor with my intake, and Voila It was running again and I even took my car to school lol.

So I figured If I just bought another sensor and installed it My problems would be fixed.

Installed the new sensor and now I cannot get it to start. It is only firing on one cylinder. I have read this in other threads but NONE of them were resolved.

Yes I have a tiny battery but I just traded for my brothers stock one and still won't start.

Any guesses? Sorry its cluttered lol



I will keep this thread updated as I will go to a shop to have it diagnosed If I cannot solve this problem myself.

Thanks guys.

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Old Jan 10, 2011, 07:14 PM
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did you align the oil pump when you did the timing?
Old Jan 10, 2011, 07:59 PM
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HEh? lol I did it the easy way. I used a tensioner tool to keep the belt in place and a bunch of zipties to keep the belt on the cam gears.

Would the oil light have come on as well ? I guess that would mess with the mivec huh ?
Old Jan 10, 2011, 08:18 PM
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did you check the obvious?

spark?
fuel?
compression?

check that out and go from there.
Old Jan 10, 2011, 08:23 PM
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lol sounds like its fixed to me. what did you forget to hook up that made it not start? crank angle sensor?

if the codes come back after you clear them then maybe you have the cam sensor turned 180deg wrong.
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Similar issue when my car stuffed up, make sure the trigger on the end of the exhaust cam (Airbox Side) under a plate thats held on by 3 bolts is alligned correctly or even installed
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Originally Posted by 05VIII
did you check the obvious?

spark?
fuel?
compression?

check that out and go from there.
Well it ran for 1 day so I at least had all those at one point haha

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lol sounds like its fixed to me. what did you forget to hook up that made it not start? crank angle sensor?

if the codes come back after you clear them then maybe you have the cam sensor turned 180deg wrong.
I will get pics up tomorrow of my sensor alignments.

Originally Posted by widge
Similar issue when my car stuffed up, make sure the trigger on the end of the exhaust cam (Airbox Side) under a plate thats held on by 3 bolts is alligned correctly or even installed
They are both installed lol I will check again tomorrow just to make sure.

It was seriously running great untilled I tried installing the new exhaust cams sensor.

I will try to report back tomorrow thanks
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check for them though, you never know. it could be something small like fuel pump fuse or ignition fuse.

check for spark and fuel

im pretty sure you have compression so that test isnt necessary
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lol my exhaust cam sensor was of 45 degrees.....

Thanks for all the input fellas !
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