Name one good car company that hasn't had scandalous issues. It's in the game.

BTW I love my service manager!... and my EVO

 

Hey all, I have been reading the board for a while and there has been some requests to compare the Evo to other sports car/sports sedans. I can share my experience in that I previously had an Integra Type R and most recently, a 2000 BMW M5. I can honestly tell you that I love my Evo. It has the lightning quick, surgical response of the Type R with the power and speed of the M5. True, it has a bit of turbo lag compared with the M5's V8 but it really doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would. As powerful as the M5 was, the clutch was soft and the car felt heavy. It didn't feel as much like a racecar as the Evo does. I have no regrets whatsoever in making the switch. If you bought an Evo, be satisfied that there really isn't any comparison in this price range (until the STi comes out) and if you are on the fence, I can tell you, just do it. This is one truly amazing car.
FWIW, I have driven various Ferrari's (308, 328, 348), a Lotus Turbo Esprit, and even a 911 TT and while there is NOTHING that accelerates like the 911, I infinitely prefer the handling of the Evo to it. This car is at the pinnacle of modern automobile technology and would have cost you over $100,000 just 5 or 10 years ago. Enjoy the treat that Mitsubishi has bestowed on us.

 

thats impressive... the M5 is one of my favorite cars. it's nice to know i drive a car that an M5 driver truly appreciates

 

John--

You wouldn't happen to be in the Philly area would you?
I happen to know a John that has had the same 3 cars in the past year.
AND, his name is John.
AND, I know he drove a Ferrari in Hawaii and a Turbo Porsche on Sunday.
That you?

 

Rock the EVO dudes...

 

Well put.

Speaking from the perspective of someone with a good amount of stick time on an e39 M5, the ability to spin the tires at any speed in first or second gear can't be understated, though...

 

John--

You forgot to include the Miata.

 

ahhhhh you just put me over the edge.....love it to death, but i'm dumping my S2000

 

Hook up on a Friday night at Tower Shops (Yo****oshi), once you get your EVO... Oh yea, Lose the s2000... The EVO is soo worth it...

 

yeah it's tough, I work friday/sat nights till 2am.....so it kinda kills my weekend flow.

 

Thank you for your objective opinion (note sarcasm).

I suspect that most car companies have had mechanical problems.

The issue is how they deal with it.

It's not "in the game," especially when considering the level and extent of the Mitsubishi scandal (did I mention that this flippant stance on corporate responsibility drives me crazy?)

I know many of you won't enjoy reading this and I expect half cocked rebuttals to this (research before you blurt), but Mitsubishi was clearly aware of significant safety issues with models throughout their product offerings in Japan for many years (between 6 and 8 if memory serves me) and chose to actively cover it up instead of trying to fix the cars (think big tobacco). People died.

The problem was endemic and due to flawed managment culture, mostly its inability to take responsibility. They were finally forced to own up. Mitsubishi has lost the trust of the typical consumer in Japan. But don't believe me. Ask a Japanese. Most probably still know the story.

I should probably mention that I saw it all first hand, during the time I lived in Japan (ten years). My wife's mother owned a Mitsubishi which was affected. They actually offered her 20% off a new car to try and win her back after the scandal broke and she wanted to be rid of her car!

Regarding the "people probably don't know how to drive a stick" comment in another post, I suggest looking in the tech forum under drivetrain. There are documented problems with the tranny. Dealers have even replaced trannies BEFORE delivery because of obvious problems. Judge for yourself.

People, stick to the facts. Flippant, half-baked opinions might be fun to bandy about, but it doesn't do anyone any good...

 

Dude, all I can say is that I have a 2002 WRX also... I have a complete exhaust on it, from the headers-back, intake, boost controller to 17 psi... It's very quick... But, The EVO is stock and almost as fast without the mods... It'll cost waay less to get it into the 12's... And it's just a completely different machine.. No compromise street racecar... The Subie, is a nice sportscar.. If you want the STI, go for it, But the EVO is un-real!!

 

Thanks for the great info.

The reason I asked about crash safety is that I have kids...

Regarding psi vs cfm, it sounds a little counterintuitive to me. psi is about COMPRESSION. Turbo cars have lower compression to handle the boost, right? It would seem that psi DOES matter. I'm no expert, but if psi didn't matter, why lower compression?

 

My wife was rear ended in my GSX at a stoplight. The other car (a Hyundai, I think) was going an estimated 35+ mph. It was totaled, my car cost 1500 to repair, and the wife was completely unharmed

 

Here's a link if your wondering about safety.

http://www.crashtest.com/

Lancer Evolution isn't on there but it's safety ratings shouldn't be too far off the regular Lancer. Looking at the crash test, the Imprezas are a bit safer. The Impreza is a lot safer in side crash tests.

Build quality from what i've heard, mechanically is good. But build quality for stuff other than mechanics isn't great. Someone recently posted a video of a Top Gear review of the Evo VIII and STI on these forums. In the review the reviewer demostrated how cheap the Evo VIII interior was by giving the tirm a pull showing how loose the parts were. So the interior would be a downgrade from the wrx.