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Congratulations Welcome to the Evo family I also had the same grin on my face after I bought mine. I purchased the first one in my city and I am sure that helped with people looking at it but most people did not know what it was.But those who did definetly gave me the thumb's up.Glad to hear you are also having a similar experience.
Re: Finally Got an EVO!!!
Originally posted by revhappy
After 2 years of shopping for a car, I finally bought a Rally Red EVO with no sunroof.
It wasn't supposed to go down like this. The two cars I was cross-shopping were the RX8 and the S2000. I always placed a lot of emphasis on handling, agility, "feel" over straightline acceleration. I knew about the EVO for about three years from a British guy I used to work with who raved about it (but would never buy it since he put a lot of emphasis on the "badge"). After testing the regular WRX (which didn't impress me much as I actually preferred the RSX-S and Celica GTS), I didn't expect the EVO to offer a completely different experience. However, I was a bit intrigued after reading several reviews and when I got an email from a local dealer asking me for a test drive, I couldn't resist!
The car blew me away. We all know about the acceleration, but I loved how the boost just came in strong around 3,500 RPM, talk about visceral! The powerband and gearing were matched so well, I couldn't stop grinning. The handling and steering were awe-inspiring. I even liked the looks too! The only car that came close to this was a used ITR, I drove all out. I ended up test-driving it again the same day and back-back with an S2000 and a 350Z. I really did not car for the 350Z except for its looks. The S2000 was great, but I just couldn't see paying more for less performance and less practicality, though if I lived in a warmer climate, it would have been a flip of a coin. I ended up ruling out the RX8 as reviews came in indicating it was really more of a sports sedan/GT car.
Anyway, I got the EVO for $743 under MSRP along with a free year of service which I figure is worth over $200, which got me close to my goal of $1,000 under sticker. I probobly could have got a better deal if I was more flexible with colors and mileage (mine had 12). In fact I seriously considered going down with Eric to Tennessee and buying from Alcoa for $500 over invoice, but with a car like the EVO I figured for me itd be best to be close to the dealer if I had problems.
My experience with the dealer was mixed. I provided my credit score to them and they offered me a 3.9% interest rate. Now, I had my credit report run by another dealer (deal fell through) and they offered me actually a lower rate. Anyway, after we finished with the salesman (fairly reasonable guy), I had to deal with the finance manager. He was your stereotypcal sleazy car dealer person. We walk in and he has this concerned look on his face. He says "we ran your credit report and its 678." He said that they used Experion and most others use Transunion and he can only offer me 4.99% (the same rate I got form People First....???). Unfortunately, I neglected to bring a copy of my credit report, but I had an interpretation, which explained the negative factors. The two things were that I had an outstanding credit card bill and it was late. I explained to him that I didn't know I had it (a secondary credit card) and that it was already paid off (could prove it) and I had the last 5 months of my bank statements that showed I had a Cash - Unpaid Bill Ratio of 15:1 during the period, thus my solvency was not an issue and the credit score was an anomoly. He wouldn't even look at the statements! Interestingly, he said the lowest rate the dealer offers is 4.09%, yet the salesman offered 3.9%????
Luckily, my father was around since he drove me there, and he promptly wrote a check for the difference in the total price and my down-payment. I withdrew this amount from a fixed income mutual fund of mine when I got home and paid him back. The Finance Manager cost his dealership approximately $1,650 over the life of the loan because of his shady behavior.
As for the car, it had 4 minor paint scratches, which i got them to write a credit slip for me. The other thing I noticed at home was that the car has an about 3 inch oval hook under the rear bumper. I checked a few cars out and some had it and some didn't? Is this the infamous hook left on from the delivery truck or is this something normal?
The other problem I am having is with my insurance company. I told them I am storing it in my parent's garage until I get a garage in my apartment complex (on a wait list). They gave me to October to bring it to my apartment and I have to park it there by then, garage or not. There is no way I can do that for obvious reasons. Is there anyway I can get around this other than lying? BTW...switching insurance companies is not an option as this is the only affordable company in NJ.
Anyway, I drove it about 300 miles this weekend through the Hudson Valley and Northwest NJ. The car defintely gets a lot of attention. In Harriman State Park, a WRX with a teeneager was on the other side of the road and ripped around and followed me and gave me a big thumbs up. I got lots of looks on the road too.
I got 26 MPG in mixed driving conditions with lots of idling for warm-up and cool-downs. I know this will change when I get past break-in!
Congradulations if you made it to the end of this extremely long post!!!
After 2 years of shopping for a car, I finally bought a Rally Red EVO with no sunroof.
It wasn't supposed to go down like this. The two cars I was cross-shopping were the RX8 and the S2000. I always placed a lot of emphasis on handling, agility, "feel" over straightline acceleration. I knew about the EVO for about three years from a British guy I used to work with who raved about it (but would never buy it since he put a lot of emphasis on the "badge"). After testing the regular WRX (which didn't impress me much as I actually preferred the RSX-S and Celica GTS), I didn't expect the EVO to offer a completely different experience. However, I was a bit intrigued after reading several reviews and when I got an email from a local dealer asking me for a test drive, I couldn't resist!
The car blew me away. We all know about the acceleration, but I loved how the boost just came in strong around 3,500 RPM, talk about visceral! The powerband and gearing were matched so well, I couldn't stop grinning. The handling and steering were awe-inspiring. I even liked the looks too! The only car that came close to this was a used ITR, I drove all out. I ended up test-driving it again the same day and back-back with an S2000 and a 350Z. I really did not car for the 350Z except for its looks. The S2000 was great, but I just couldn't see paying more for less performance and less practicality, though if I lived in a warmer climate, it would have been a flip of a coin. I ended up ruling out the RX8 as reviews came in indicating it was really more of a sports sedan/GT car.
Anyway, I got the EVO for $743 under MSRP along with a free year of service which I figure is worth over $200, which got me close to my goal of $1,000 under sticker. I probobly could have got a better deal if I was more flexible with colors and mileage (mine had 12). In fact I seriously considered going down with Eric to Tennessee and buying from Alcoa for $500 over invoice, but with a car like the EVO I figured for me itd be best to be close to the dealer if I had problems.
My experience with the dealer was mixed. I provided my credit score to them and they offered me a 3.9% interest rate. Now, I had my credit report run by another dealer (deal fell through) and they offered me actually a lower rate. Anyway, after we finished with the salesman (fairly reasonable guy), I had to deal with the finance manager. He was your stereotypcal sleazy car dealer person. We walk in and he has this concerned look on his face. He says "we ran your credit report and its 678." He said that they used Experion and most others use Transunion and he can only offer me 4.99% (the same rate I got form People First....???). Unfortunately, I neglected to bring a copy of my credit report, but I had an interpretation, which explained the negative factors. The two things were that I had an outstanding credit card bill and it was late. I explained to him that I didn't know I had it (a secondary credit card) and that it was already paid off (could prove it) and I had the last 5 months of my bank statements that showed I had a Cash - Unpaid Bill Ratio of 15:1 during the period, thus my solvency was not an issue and the credit score was an anomoly. He wouldn't even look at the statements! Interestingly, he said the lowest rate the dealer offers is 4.09%, yet the salesman offered 3.9%????
Luckily, my father was around since he drove me there, and he promptly wrote a check for the difference in the total price and my down-payment. I withdrew this amount from a fixed income mutual fund of mine when I got home and paid him back. The Finance Manager cost his dealership approximately $1,650 over the life of the loan because of his shady behavior.
As for the car, it had 4 minor paint scratches, which i got them to write a credit slip for me. The other thing I noticed at home was that the car has an about 3 inch oval hook under the rear bumper. I checked a few cars out and some had it and some didn't? Is this the infamous hook left on from the delivery truck or is this something normal?
The other problem I am having is with my insurance company. I told them I am storing it in my parent's garage until I get a garage in my apartment complex (on a wait list). They gave me to October to bring it to my apartment and I have to park it there by then, garage or not. There is no way I can do that for obvious reasons. Is there anyway I can get around this other than lying? BTW...switching insurance companies is not an option as this is the only affordable company in NJ.
Anyway, I drove it about 300 miles this weekend through the Hudson Valley and Northwest NJ. The car defintely gets a lot of attention. In Harriman State Park, a WRX with a teeneager was on the other side of the road and ripped around and followed me and gave me a big thumbs up. I got lots of looks on the road too.
I got 26 MPG in mixed driving conditions with lots of idling for warm-up and cool-downs. I know this will change when I get past break-in!
Congradulations if you made it to the end of this extremely long post!!!
Ya, What I'm really pissed about is that a dealer near me will match Alcoa's deal to the T because of the prep fee Alcoa has. But I made a deal and I would not go back on it even if it was a 1000.00 cheap at this point. I feel that so far I have bin treated very well and my APR is about 6.89 (only 25 not much credit history). I'm a business man and do outsourcing work, and when a customer goes out of the deal and levels me hanging after so much time, is really a downer. I will give a full report good or bad after all is done. So far so good at this point and My insurance is cheaper then my WRX is.
I figure I can just pay it off in the next two year anyway. Glad you like it!! My wife and I are excited about the trip it should be fun! We went out CD shopping for it last night.
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Re: Re: Finally Got an EVO!!!
Originally posted by Eric Lyublinsky
Good stuff
Ya, What I'm really pissed about is that a dealer near me will match Alcoa's deal to the T because of the prep fee Alcoa has. But I made a deal and I would not go back on it even if it was a 1000.00 cheap at this point. I feel that so far I have bin treated very well and my APR is about 6.89 (only 25 not much credit history). I'm a business man and do outsourcing work, and when a customer goes out of the deal and levels me hanging after so much time, is really a downer. I will give a full report good or bad after all is done. So far so good at this point and My insurance is cheaper then my WRX is.
I figure I can just pay it off in the next two year anyway. Glad you like it!! My wife and I are excited about the trip it should be fun! We went out CD shopping for it last night.
Good stuff
Ya, What I'm really pissed about is that a dealer near me will match Alcoa's deal to the T because of the prep fee Alcoa has. But I made a deal and I would not go back on it even if it was a 1000.00 cheap at this point. I feel that so far I have bin treated very well and my APR is about 6.89 (only 25 not much credit history). I'm a business man and do outsourcing work, and when a customer goes out of the deal and levels me hanging after so much time, is really a downer. I will give a full report good or bad after all is done. So far so good at this point and My insurance is cheaper then my WRX is.
I figure I can just pay it off in the next two year anyway. Glad you like it!! My wife and I are excited about the trip it should be fun! We went out CD shopping for it last night.
In fact, the liability portion of the bill is less than my 1993 Ford Escort!!!Does anyone know if the hook I described is the one from the delivery trucks or is supposed to be there?
What dealer gave you that offer and how much was it? I've contacted just about every NJ dealer before buying.
Re: Re: Re: Finally Got an EVO!!!
Originally posted by revhappy
I just got my insurance bill for the EVO. Its $1,084 for a year, but with multicar and other discounts the net increase to my policy is only $750!!!!! Not bad at all!!!! In fact, the liability portion of the bill is less than my 1993 Ford Escort!!!
Does anyone know if the hook I described is the one from the delivery trucks or is supposed to be there?
What dealer gave you that offer and how much was it? I've contacted just about every NJ dealer before buying.
I just got my insurance bill for the EVO. Its $1,084 for a year, but with multicar and other discounts the net increase to my policy is only $750!!!!! Not bad at all!!!!
In fact, the liability portion of the bill is less than my 1993 Ford Escort!!!Does anyone know if the hook I described is the one from the delivery trucks or is supposed to be there?
What dealer gave you that offer and how much was it? I've contacted just about every NJ dealer before buying.
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From: vandenberg afb CA
well i just got back from New York.. and the the dealer keep calling me saying that he has a good news for me... maybe he'll sell it to me lower than MSRP....
ill give em a call today..
thanks for the all the great replies guys...
ill give em a call today..
thanks for the all the great replies guys...
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Evo New Driver Friendly?
Hey, i'm new to stick and im seriously considering the Evo8 as my first stick car. I've read up on it, and how it has some clutch/tranny issues. I hear AWD launching isn't too easy either. I've just learned stick on my uncle's beat up truck, and had some practice here and there from my friend's cars. Is the evo8 friendly to new stick drivers, what do you guys think? Thanks.
For the sake of the car I'd say try to learn on a beater but If you understand the basic process of driving stick then its going to be an adjustment to the car more then anything. The EVO is somewhat hard to get moving out of first but otherwise its as simple as any other new manual transmission car.