Originally Posted by localtoys73

I just did a 5.7 flat 60 to 130 for reference a stock r1 did a 6.4 a nodded gtr did a 7.1 on our local forum....this is at 32psi and 590 on a low reading mustang dyno

Originally Posted by SmurfZilla

Sidenote: Glad you kept the car AJ

Originally Posted by jonzie04

Customer service goes much farther than paying "out of pocket" to fix an engine that was built with the pistons installed backwards.


Extreme tuners has some quality parts that neither you, nor buschur has built. If you could see past the twinkie in front of your face and would stop playing teeter totter on David Buschurs nut sack then you would see that Extreme tuners has produced some quality parts that will be needed to power a 4g63 faster than 7.7. It is obvious that ET hasn't built cars to go down the quarter mile. The world isn't flat Mike and Drag racing/Road racing isn't the only way to measure a pp.

Originally Posted by David Buschur

People forget that there are records that have been set for the last 20 years by shops and people that are still around. They see these new guys pop up and get the "ooooh, aaaah wow" factor going and it just kills me.

Originally Posted by jonzie04

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Originally Posted by Acree

I never said blind due to "following." I specified blindly following. There's a very big difference. My point is Buschur certainly has cemented a respected place in the industry, but that's doesn't mean the man is beyond reproach which is what was originally implied in the post I quoted.

-Acree

Originally Posted by jonzie04

I did look at the pictures and they are way to small to make any kind of comparison. AMS makes quality parts as do you, but I don't understand why you posted some random shops collector. I also don't understand why you are hell bent on trying to 1 up everything a SINGLE shop is doing by bringing in several different cars, from several different shops. Why is it that other vendors have posted in spyros thread amazed at the quality of their manifolds? It very well could be smoke and mirrors, but ET manifolds are on their way to the states, and an Us car ET car is being built. Why not sit back and relax and wait to see what those parts can do? Rather than waste your time posting random pictures, making yourself look like an ***, and losing business.

Originally Posted by C130flyer

I think it's hilarious to hear AWD talking about customer service LOL

What about all those people you ripped off back in the day, when you where a honda shop........

This will get deleted by the MODS quick LOL

Also I was wondering when the backwards piston thing was gonna come up TROLLA TROLLO TRA

Originally Posted by jasnm21

This isn't bashing anyone, I just think people are looking at the video in the wrong way... The 870hp at 14psi is way more impressive than the 11k rev. It isn't said what dyno this was on, if it was a engine dyno, which he uses often, or a dynopack/dynojet/mustang, or any proof that it did make this power.

He is after 60-130 times and if he gets anywhere near the low 3 second times as he claims, that puts him in the 1200-1500awhp range of the TT Lambos and AMS/Switzer GTRs, especially at 3300lbs. I don't see it happening with anything short of a 285 tire if he plans on using a "street" tire. I would be interested in what it takes to get our cars to do a 4.59 60-130 in a full weight car. After all, all the other car platforms use the 60-130 times as records, why don't we? If you look up 60-130 times and on dragtimes it shows the MPH and they are 140+ in the 1/4 mile and other sites cars in that range are in the 900hp area. Of course these are different cars but it takes real power, or good power and traction, to do it. How many of you guys run 140+ at just 14psi? Then how many of you weigh 3300lbs? But then again there is no proof of the weight of his vehicle or if these times were actually accomplished or just claimed, so my argument might be bad in the first place.

The traction issue might be solved by the stand alone he runs that has traction control by boost/rpm/gear. The size of the tire/compound was never disclosed.

His gear ratios look really short and very similar to stock gearing besides the RPMs.

The Subaru running 9.2@162 when no one state side has ran that, in a Subaru, short of a drag car. That's impressive for a Subaru and faster, not quicker but the 1.76 60' can't help the cause, than every "street" Evo on here.

I just wish he would have some updates soon to either prove that he knows what he is doing or to stop this debate.

Also, who cares what he was doing 20 years ago, he was probably doing 1/4 of million dollar engines for Formula 1, Indy, WRC etc. How many shops here can say that they have 2 million dollars in CNC machines in their shop? Besides AMS and they hold a couple records of their own on multiple platforms.

To end this rant, all this is about is a new guy with a lot of claimed experience in other platforms and tons and tons of money. 99% of his builds are not for the general public, who would run 13:1 compression on 91-93 octane? He is a claiming a lot with little proof and doesn't care to give proof to everyone about it, dynos have been proven to be manipulated for years, ask DG Motors or TTP about it. If his statements are true about his background and everything, he is probably in an income level that we all wish we were at. How many people can say they BUILT an engine/ECM for a Formula 1, Indy, WRC? He has people on here with years of experience in other fields, engineers and such, impressed with his parts, technical talk and knowledge. Again, there is just way too much left off that everyone can argue about and there is no proof of anything, all claims. Until there is proof, there is a reason to be skeptical and question his motives. He also isn't interested in making tons of money off of people or his site would be functional, not that most of us could afford a billet block or titanium valves, crank or cams. I will stick to my Buschur Racing parts for proven performance.