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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 06:27 AM
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I've heard you need to do an oil change fairly soon after using this in the intake. Apparently it thins out the oil a bit and could lead to trouble. I have no data to back this up, but it makes sense to me. I used it in the intake and gas tank. After that tank was used up I did my oil change. I just planned it out 250 miles before my oil change.
I would say 100 miles would be sufficient, but it may also depend on what method you use too. I never went over 100 miles regardless, assuming that would be more than enough to get the job done.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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Does the product announce that it thins oil? That seems to be a significant flaw.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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"Thins oil" I doubt the oil will lose its viscosity or its performance to lubricate do to it passing through the intake manifold. But I don't think I would go on a boosting spree having a good amount directly in my oil lol. I have been meaning to do this on my car for quite some time now. I can't wait.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mirkendargen
I can say from experience the BOV line sucks nice and hard .
Idk if it's just me but when I read that I cracked up
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Interesting read here:

http://www.yotatech.com/f105/sea-foa...-truth-160613/

Sea Foam... do you want the truth?

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Okay, I am putting this in two places, and on other sites, as I don't know where it should officially go, but i want as many peeps and homies as possible to read this. I got totally bugged out , becuase so much speculation was going on here, with the one thread being 23 pages long, and 4 years old. I couldn't stand it anymore, so i called Sea Foam.
I was transferred to Jim Davis, Technical Director/ Research, of Sea Foam. and we had quite a cordial conversation, a real easy going guy, he is college educated, with a degree in automotive technology, has 35 years experience in the automotive repair industry , and is an A.S.E. certified mechanic. He has been with Seafoam, I think, the last 5 years, as his doctor told him, his body was just too out of whack, to handle mech work anymore.
So I will try to write as much as I remember, from my chicken scratch.
First off, I asked all the questions I wanted, such as , will it hurt, is it damaging to any parts at all, can it be used as maintenance, what do you do after you use the product, does anything need to be changed out, etc., etc.
First, he stressed multiple times, that this was a 100% petroleum product, nothing else. He said this many times during our conversation. he said there is nothing added, no fillers, no astringents, no mulsifiers, cleaners, detergents, nothing at all.
so how exactly does it work? Well , as you know, there is more than just carbon in your engine, there is salt , sulfur, all kinds of vox, and nox materials, you name it. How does it get stuck in there, and not filtered out? Simple, alot of the stuff we normally add, including gas, has a certain amount of sludge, varnish, lacquer, and gums added to it. This is the stuff, that sticks to walls, pistons, etc., especially when cooling. then all the other stuff we talk about, including carbon, gets stuck to this stuff, carbon, small micron stuff, other nox and vox particles.
Seafoam attacks and disolves the varnish, gum, sludge, and lacquer in there primarily, and then begins to break up , the other stuff.
Once this happens, all the junk is now freefloated back into suspension, and can be filtered out, or burnt out, of your various systems.
Seafoam does 3 other things primarily; controls and locks up moisture, adds lubricity without viscoscity, and cleans without adding any chemicals at all.

Does it harm other materials? In a word, no. He told me that right now, around their research area, they have multiple glass , sealed jars of Seafoam, with various things in each jar. plastic, rubber, seals, o-rings, pencil pieces, paper clips, bits and pieces of everything. Some of the items, in some of the jars, have not been opened or disturbed for 3 plus years now. he said, these bottles and items are studied through mag glass, and items looked at closely through microscopes, with no apparent natural destruction, loss, or dispersal,or disfiguration, becuase the item was sitting in Seafoam.
So you do not have to worry about your gaskets , seals, o-rings, etc., from exposure to seafoam.
he also said as a former tech, he did this same cleaning job many, many times, to multiple autos, and only one time did he have a problem.
It was with a car, driven by an old dude, who never drove it over 45 miles per hour, never put it on the highway, never got it hot, allways in traffic/city driving, and never driven over 20 miles, in either direction. he said it was just so full of carbon and junk, that the gum/lacquer did get on his 02 sensor, and a chunk of carbon did stick to that. he replaced said o2 sensor, and did another cleaning job, and the car drove like new. he said the old dude was so
impressed , becuase it drove the way it did , when he bought it new.
Again, 1 problem encountered, in all the times he did this cleaning job.
I asked will it harm injectors over time, or will it harm or dirty up the spark plugs, again the answer was no. As a matter of fact, he said, it will do nothing to the injectors but clean them real well, and it will proly make your spark plugs look like new, after a 2 or maybe 3 cleaning jobs.
I asked if it was too much, becuase gas contains cleaners and detergents in it as well, plus using this as a cleaner. he said no, because seafoam will clean out the detergents and cleaners as well, plus he said, only the really big gas peeps put cleaners in their gas, such as BP, shell, Chevron, Exxon, and even they do not put it in all grades of their gas. So if you are buying gas at Bud's truck and beer stop, it proly does not have cleaners/detergents in it.

OIL. I then asked about adding it to your oil and gas tanks; he said follow
the amounts on the directions, and you will be fine. Again, it adds lubricity and removes moisture, from you various systems, even the exaust system.
this is good , as i noticed, several drops of not only water, from using this on both my cars, but noticed a bit of goo coming from the 4runner pipe.
Specifically, in oil, it breaks up, and cleans up, all the junk in your oil system.
the longer you leave it in, the more it breaks up this crap, it should then be able to be filtered out of your system, and will turn your oil dark.
He said, how long you leave it in is up to you, the longer you leave it in, the more cleaning it does, then you can change your oil. then you can put more in, and clean again. You can keep doing this, until your oil system is clean, then do this for maintenance. the stuff that it breaks up and loosens up,
should not damage your system anyway, it should get filtered out, your pistons, and stuff will continue to smash this stuff up, and is stronger than the junk. Until it gets filtered out, or you keep changing your oil, until it starts to run clean for at least a couple thousand miles.
MAINTENANCE. I asked about maintenance, and changing out stuff; except for your filters, and the one bad example from above, you should not need to change anything else out. for using as regular maintenance, he said, not only is it fine, but he has been doing it for years. once his oil is clean to the way he likes it, and he thinks his intake system/injectors are clean the way he likes, then he just addes to his crank case, about every 6k or every other oil change, before he does the oil change a day or two, and adds for gas, to the recommended amt on the back of the bottle, so it keeps everything clean, lubed, and keeps out moisture.
i again asked specifically if it would harm injectors over time, he then went into a long story about injectors, and how you can balance them, and how they work, etc., etc., and then finally he said, no, it will not harm injectors, maybe cleaners or detergents in gas will , over a long time, but seafoam will clean out that stuff anyway, and again he said, only some of the big gas companies use cleaners, in all their diff levels of gas anyway as well.
Also when it comes to maint, it does such a good job of lubricity, he says it keeps the lacquer/gum , etc., from hanging on in the first place, which is what allows all the other stuff to hang onto, along the way. So he did recommend as maintenance, but not a lot, just after you have it cleaned the way you like, and you certainly need to do no more, than recommended maintenance that is described on the bottle. He said it really matter as to what you do, and how you are satisfied, some may find, that half or less the recommendation maintenance, works fine for them.
I am sure we talked about other stuff, and for longer, but this is as much as my scratchings have allowed me to remember right now.
As anectdotal evidence, besides doing my88 4runner, which it also got out the goo and water from the gas system/CAT/muffler/pipe( oh yeah, he did say it will also help clean out your CAT as well, he did 2 cleanings on one that smelt like Eggfarts, and after the second treatment, the stench was gone) I also did simultaneously a 92 chevy caprice, old school, with a 5 liter motor, with police interceptor package. i did two clean jobs with it, and if you saw my motor with the hood open, you cannot either hear, or see that it is running, it is that quiet now.
So today i actually drove it to work, and I also drive it for work, as I am a sevice tech, that has to drive to sites, to get certain work done.
One of the things that used to bother me a lot, was from a dead start, or red light, if i pressed on the gas a bit hard, i would for a second or two, get the 'clatter, rattle ' sound, as it first excelerated, like a diesel engine sound, and then it would go away. I would allways hear it, all the time, and every time. After the cleaning today, if I was not looking for it, I would not hear it, and when i was looking for the sound, i would just barely hear it, and that was only sometimes. i am looking for this sound to completely disappear soon.
Secondly , exceleration. This car is fast, and has allways been fast, but it was never what I considered quick, it was okay, but nothing special. Once it got up a little momentum, then it would giddyup.
Now, today, several times, I hit it up, at a stop light, or sign, or if i was allready on the highway, would hit the accelerator, as I was allready doing highway speeds. What throttle response!!!! WOW!!!! Not guessing, not thinking, but my A#$ss-ometer could easily tell, that as soon as my foot hit the pedal, my car would bow it's back up , like a wet cat, and take off, lickety
split, i mean the acceleration came quick , and easy folks, as soon as I hit
the pedal. And this car weighs a good 55oo lbs, not including all the wieight of all the crap i carry around in it.
Lemme show you;

It says that adding it to your oil is a great idea FYI. It adds librication and removes moisture. Ima do this this weekend on both my cars.

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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:13 AM
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That is a good read, it does make me feel a lot better about the product too. I've always been wary of sea foaming without having a spare set of plugs handy since I was told by more than one person that plug fouling was an associated risk with using the product.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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Wow great find man. I do have a question. What exact vacuum line would b fine? Does anyone have pictures or something? I'm new to the evo and i cant find vacuum lines. lol
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Nice find High_psi.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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Wow great find man. I do have a question. What exact vacuum line would b fine? Does anyone have pictures or something? I'm new to the evo and i cant find vacuum lines. lol
Originally Posted by mirkendargen
Unless there are pills or something in the BOV line I'm not aware of, any line to the intake manifold is the same amount of vacuum. The size of the line will just determine how fast you suck it in. I can say from experience the BOV line sucks nice and hard

Larger lines can actually be harder to use because it's harder to keep the car running with them disconnected since they are larger vacuum leaks. It'll work fine though, you might just have to blip the throttle cable to keep it going.
This post is full of WIN!!!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Good post...ill try this out this weekend thanks!!
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by waylonmunoz2005
Wow great find man. I do have a question. What exact vacuum line would b fine? Does anyone have pictures or something? I'm new to the evo and i cant find vacuum lines. lol
use the bov line, if you do not know where it is i can take a picture for you if you like.
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 07:50 PM
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Ok... I picked some of this up from Auto Zone on the way home tonight, and all I can say is WHOA!!! 2/3's in the tank, filled up on 93 and then I sprinted 25 miles across the highway home and put the other 1/3 in the intake through the vac line. I let it sit 5 minutes in the motor and then took the car back out on the street for another "spirited run" (until all the white smoke action had subsided). I will say is SeaFoam is prolly the best $10 dollar maintenance mod you can buy for an Evo... especially if you run E85 on and off with 93. Thanks OP, this stuff is the truth. Can't wait to pour half a can in the motor, drive for a day and then do an oil change.

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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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Guess I'll be the one to ask...Can someone post a picture of where you put the seafoam in/which vac line? Thanks
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Old Dec 13, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Guess I'll be the one to ask...Can someone post a picture of where you put the seafoam in/which vac line? Thanks
Ok see that black round cylinder on the driver's side of your engine bay(brake booster master cylinder)...


Now do you see the hose that is running from the brake booster master cylinder to the intake manifold, this is the hose that is the vac line you wanna use. Disconnect it where I circled it with the car running and the intake will suck the seafoam right in... just pour slowly so you don't make a mess.

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Old Dec 14, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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I'm glad this is helping everyone out
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