(waits for crazy to get 0wn3d)

-bd

 

My STI was a Type RA C spec - complete car cut in half with full wireing harness and all major mechanical compnenents including suspesnsion etc - i do not thin you search the old i-club deep enough to see all the info on my car

 

And i guess all the dudes driving skylines in the US dont have them either ??

You can build any car you want if you work hard enough at it and you have all the original parts - its just a matter of bolting all the stuff into the US car

and yes - when my STI set up was in stock STI form it even passed US emmissions

 

Al, got any pics of your car? I'd love to see it.

 

You can see the original post on the STI set up I bought here - there are pictures of the actual car that I got in that thread

Also - if you do a screen name search on my after April 2002 you can see thereads and info on my set up - which was the fastest Suby at the East Coast shoot out in September

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=169064

 

You can ask anyone on the i-club or nasioc about my WRX and its STI adventures - - - thats not the point - - the point is I drove over 50 modifed WRX's - some of which had over $75,000 in mods done - - and after all my time with the WRX - the EVO blows the suby away - STI or not

Its just my opinion - if you like the STI better wait for it to come out !

 

Al,
Something was lost in the translation of your imported spec C. STi v7 spec C routinely beats the Evo 7 RS in track testing. Anyway, those cars are history.
The Evo 8 and STI v8 are now virtually even according to the latest comparos in Japan...heck the regular STi even comes out on top in some aspects.
So, before you conquer the world in your US Evo, make sure you import a JDM cam!

TRS

 

Once again Alfriedesq, you DO NOT have an REAL STi!!! You just have a WRX that is really close spec to the STi. I hate it when people keep saying something thats is not true, so much of a rice talk. You can say you have an STi if you ship the whole STi from Japan and drive it RHD the way it is. I believe those skyline are real, BTW.

 

If you have no idea what your talking about when it comes to skylines, kindly shut your mouth.

Regarding the STi, unless you have the frame, you dont have jack ****. It is NOT just a matter of bolting all the stuff into the US car.

 

Right - the Frame is such a huge difference on a WRX to STI swap - - - as someone who has taken apart a sti bolt by bolt nut by nut down to the bare sheet metal carcas I can tell you the body itself is identical

Here are the parts I added to my WRX to make the STI conversion :

STi engine - with AVCS and wiring harness - VF30 turbo - and STI exhaust
STI injectors and JDM V-8 Ecu
STI 6 spd with suretrack f Diff - drive shaft - half shafts Rear diff
STI flywheel and clutch
STI shifter
STI streering rack, f & R stuts and srprings suspension busings sway bars and wheel hubs
STI rear breaks and prodrive F breaks
STI power steering pump and pwoer sterring fluid
STI motor tranny and body mounts and busihhings
STI lateral links - F lower control arms and rear laterl links

the reality is that my car was identical to a real STI in every manner except the VIN number

On top of that - after i drove the stock STI vf30 set up for a week - then I added custom fuel suply - rails - bigger injectors - cutcom upipe - garret GT30 turbo and FMIC set up - - - results 412 wheel HP daily driver that goes 124 mph in the 1.4 on street tires baby shifting

You can talk all the stupid stuff you want - - the fact is you are just a two bit arm chair quarter back punk - - why don't you actually go out and do something with your hands and then you can tell me all about your fast car instead of telling me what my car was or is - - no matter what my car is - i am sure it can beat yours

 

So you do know that....you dont' have a STi frame right? And there is a whole lot of different from a factory fit then a custom make fit, otherword, make it fit!!!

 

Who cares what i drive or drove - all that matters is that the EVO is a great car

 

The chassis of the JDM Type RA Spec - C is different from that of the normal STi. The Spec - C chassis has a different wheelbase. That wheelbase are one of the many modifications that Subaru made to the STi to make it a Spec - C.

That's why I don't believe you Alfriedesq. The WRX and Spec - C are essentially almost two different cars. If you look at the specs of the Spec - C and compare them to the specs of a STi 7/WRX you'll see that the wheelbases are different. That difference in wheelbase and the change front suspension geometry is what allows that Spec - C to stomp on EVOs at the track (Best Motoring July 2002???).

Also the specs of the USDM STi show that it has the same wheelbase and revised front geomerty as the Spec - C. The USDM STi arrives with a revised rear suspension as well.

The USDM STi [b]WILL BE[\b] a match for the handling prowess of the USDM EVO 8.

 

PS >> Please don't take my counter points like I'm an EVO - hating - WRX - driver. I've always liked the EVOs. If I had the money I'd seriously buy both cars and rule the streets with both of them. I just think that some of the comparisons with the USDM EVO and the USDM STi aren't fair. The STi still hasn't come out yet but people are already saying that the STi can't match the EVOs handling. The revisions to the suspension and geometry in the STi should allow the STi to hang with the EVO handling wise. The old STi 7 and the new STi 8/USDM STi are almost two completely different cars because of the points that I pointed out in my earlier posts. I know that the handling superiority of the EVOs over the STi has been estbalished a long time ago but the new STi 8 should make it up big time. I might not out - hanlde the EVO but should come pretty damn close.

 

Very simply put, the sum of the parts DO NOT equal the whole.

Although you may have put some of the "STi" genuine parts on your car, it doesn't equal a factory tuned STi, especially the SPEC C.

There isn't any doubt that you car could very well be a ringer. Yet, I believe that with more proper tuning the car that you sold or will sell could out perform the EVO with comparable drivers.

Getting back to the subject of the EVO or STi, I believe that I would be more compelled to go for the EVO if it was equipped as the JDM spec RS or GSR. The 5 speed tranny doesn't do that much for me. Also, the absence of the AYC, ADC doesn't help either. Why, for guys that put their cars on the track these features are important.

Are you listening ? Don't only play to the F/F2 crowd. There are some of us that can't wait for a revised USDM version of the EVO that will keep pace or better the STi. Some of us will actually track the car and want the very best if not better than what the JDM car has to offer. If you want to earn our business, that means the guys/gals that will use every bit of performance that the car has to offer, bring us the GSR or RS. Are you listening?