Rally the damn car!

There are a lot of WRXs rallying, believe it or not.
Expecially Rally Xs and ice races!!!

 

There are not a lot of WRX's that have been sent over to Europe to run WRC though. I believe the exact number is around 0. Keeping 2.0 doesn't matter anywhere, they only have to make 50 cars to meet homoligation regs, and all 50 can be specially built vehicles intended only for rallying.

 

THANK YOU!! This is what I've been talking about all the time. Pick the car to your needs and not to the brand. If you want better interior, get the STi, if you want better moddability, get the EVO (cuz the 4g63 engine just simply had more research money thrown at it than Subaru can throw at the EJ20), more practical, EVO (bigger interior space), better performer when stock, get the STi (when USDM STi = JDM STi with 2.5 Liter, no way a USDM EVO can compete when the cars are so closely matched in japan stock vs stock, bring on a modified 4g64 JDM EVO for USDM and things will get interesting. ).

I think perhaps 97itr153 can relate considering how Honda is not importing the Civic Type R (good handling for the price), Integra Type R (be called RSX Type R in states, again good handling for price), or the the NSX Type R (named EVO's car of the year and with 200 lb lost, does 0 to 60 in 4.4 mph, substantially faster than our USDM NSXs) and thereby losing a good number of the people who like weekend to hardcore racing.

 

Why bother when the Europeans can import a Spec C from Japan and also have it (if they want) street legal due to more relaxed importing rules?

 

That's my whole point. They only need the 2.0 for WRC. They only need 50 cars per year with a 2.0 to meet the regs. They don't even have to sell any of those to the public, they can all go to prodrive. The cars they sell to the public could all be 8.0 V12's for all they care. Now a 2.5 will need a smaller restrictor for the SCCA pro rallys, and may end up not being as competitive as a 2.0, but it's not a requirement. So people can stop asking how they get away with a 2.5 when they need a 2.0 for WRC.

 

I'm not too sure you're entirely correct on that. I'm under the impression 2000 cars have to be built to meet homoligation, (which are mostly released and sold in Japan) with 20 homoliganized components on the car. Last I heard they are trying to reduce the number of items to 10. I may however be mixing up the 2000 cars figure with Group A regulations. Too lazy to check.

 

They both should just cut to the chase and put in Veyron
V-12's in the cars...LOL (1000+hp / 4 turbos) SWEET

But seriously I can't wait for the (place car magazine name here) EVO vs. Sti comparison article!!!

 

http://www.fia.com/presse/dcm-a/summary.htm
http://www.fia.com/presse/ralupdt-a/2002/20-12-2002.pdf

The first link lists the definition of what the FIA considers to be a "World Rally Car" as was introduced in 1997. I'm not sure what else has changed since 1997, but one new thing for 2003 is the reduction of the number of homologation specials from 20 down to 10.

Since those 10 cars are going to be used for competition, a manufacturer can put anything they want in the production version, as long as the basic definitions listed on the first link are met.

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...626668,00.html

Looking for a substantiated comparison test from a well respected Motor Journalist? Then look no further; at least for now.

In this article, Clarkson compares the new STi with the 300bhp Prodrive Pack against the new Evolution VIII. The article starts out with a lengthy (and worth reading) description of why one should NOT blindly trust the opinion of EVERYONE who claims to be an auto journalist.

My favourite quote from the article...
"If I may be permitted to liken cars to people, most spend their days cleaning the bath and going to work and sewing name tags on children's PE kit. The Evo and the Impreza get all that stuff out of the way before breakfast and then spend the rest of the time having wild, mad, passionate and, it must be said, often illegal sex."
Jeremy Clarkson

As for me...I will NOT buy either car UNTIL and UNLESS I have had a chance to drive both. That is the ONLY way I will be able to sleep well at night.

 

The truth is, we are not getting both of these cars in their European form...so this article is more like a good read than accurate reference to their US counterparts

That's a very good approach to take

 

clarkson is so funny

biased as hell tho

 

Interesting, but as already pointed out, irrelevant. It's the 2.0 liter STi, not the 2.5 USDM model.

 

Interesting US STI vs US EVO8,

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=775630

Thanks

Cagri

 

 

That review has already been posted twice.