View Poll Results: Choose which ones will influence your decision

Wow, 300hp, 300 ft-lbs from 2.5L Subaru boxer engine

152

22.25%

Proven tuning potential of the Mitsubishi 4G63

355

51.98%

Subaru\'s strong 6-speed manual tranny

138

20.20%

Mitsubishi\'s dependable 5-speed tranny

109

15.96%

DCCD on the STi... wish Evo had ACD

132

19.33%

Stock FMIC on the Evo

164

24.01%

Exterior looks

305

44.66%

Interior quality

148

21.67%

Gross Vehicle Weight

11.57%

I want to test drive both before deciding

165

24.16%

Price

261

38.21%

Body Shell Rigidity

133

19.47%

Brakes

163

23.87%

0 - 60 mph and 1/4 mile times

201

29.43%

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Apr 22, 2003 | 06:30 PM

#736

djdaizzy

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Originally posted by broeli

Kinda funny though...how they tried to reach the weight of the Evo. The Sti doesn't include stereo, speakers, or floormats. All of which will be added by most owners....making the Sti actually around 3300 lbs. Not that 50lbs will make a ton of difference. I think Subaru thought it would look bad if the Sti came weighing more than the Evo. I remember everyone..especially Subaru people saying the Evo was overweight compared to j-spec......

Does the EVO have front LSD, 6spd and active center diff? What happens if you add those to the EVO?

Apr 22, 2003 | 06:42 PM

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i dont think the sti will run 12's right out of the box

Apr 22, 2003 | 06:54 PM

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vegetta

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Originally posted by djdaizzy

Does the EVO have front LSD, 6spd and active center diff? What happens if you add those to the EVO?

Apr 22, 2003 | 07:34 PM

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Señor Info

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Originally posted by broeli
Kinda funny though...how they tried to reach the weight of the Evo. The Sti doesn't include stereo, speakers, or floormats. All of which will be added by most owners....

Well, is the weight of a big wing included in the Evo's advertised curb weight, as it is for the STi?

As I recall, the U.S. STi's official advertised curb weight was only announced within the last few weeks. It seems more than mere coincidence that it is identical to the U.S. Evo's. It's as if, from Subaru's point of view, Mitsubishi had hung a bulls-eye on the U.S. Evo for Subaru to shoot at with the U.S. STi.

And again I'd like to emphasize the thrust of my original post in this thread, that comparisons of overseas versions are meaningless for U.S. drivers.

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Apr 22, 2003 | 11:18 PM

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Originally posted by broeli

Kinda funny though...how they tried to reach the weight of the Evo. The Sti doesn't include stereo, speakers, or floormats. All of which will be added by most owners

Instead of deleting the necessary hardware like 3 LSDs, 6-sp, etc, Subaru decides to delete non-performance garbage like the stereo.

YOU may find that funny, but an ENTHUSIAST will consider it to be an intelligent move on Subaru's part. For me personally, not having a stereo means less weight AND less money that can be spent on a set of Hoosiers instead.

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Apr 23, 2003 | 10:27 AM

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There are very few people that would be inclined to buy a car with no a/c and stereo just to save 100lbs though. I personally like light weight, but for 50lbs I will listen to my radio as I drive to work, and on hot days I will turn on the A/C vs sweating my ***** off.

I would guess about 1% of the people will actually drive a car with no a/c and no stereo.

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Originally posted by 97itr153

Instead of deleting the necessary hardware like 3 LSDs, 6-sp, etc, Subaru decides to delete non-performance garbage like the stereo.

YOU may find that funny, but an ENTHUSIAST will consider it to be an intelligent move on Subaru's part. For me personally, not having a stereo means less weight AND less money that can be spent on a set of Hoosiers instead.

Apr 23, 2003 | 10:38 AM

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There are very few people that would be inclined to buy a car with no a/c and stereo just to save 100lbs though. I personally like light weight, but for 50lbs I will listen to my radio as I drive to work, and on hot days I will turn on the A/C vs sweating my ***** off.

I would guess about 1% of the people will actually drive a car with no a/c and no stereo.

The STi comes with semi auto A/C

Apr 23, 2003 | 10:50 AM

#743

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The STi comes with semi auto A/C

AKA the windows

Apr 23, 2003 | 10:59 AM

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dlowman

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AKA the windows

You guys are funny. Where did this junk about no a/c come from

People need to learn to read lol

Apr 23, 2003 | 11:38 AM

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You guys are funny. Where did this junk about no a/c come from People need to learn to read lol

We know the STI has semi automatic climate control which includes AC and is a very nice feature. The mis-information comes from the same place that stuff like all EVO's have just 20hp more than a stock WRX.

Nobody will be happier to see the STI get here than EVO owners!

Speedlimit........

Apr 23, 2003 | 01:08 PM

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Why are evo owners going to be happy when the sti gets here?

Apr 23, 2003 | 02:09 PM

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RedBean

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Why are evo owners going to be happy when the sti gets here?

So they will have some company while mocking the SRT-4s?

Apr 23, 2003 | 02:22 PM

#748

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Why are evo owners going to be happy when the sti gets here?

Because it's a great addition to the U.S. market and it's in the same rally-bred class. What do you think we are going to be scared of it?

Don't think so! I got some-tin for it already

But it's all in good fun ... and the same feeling when I pull up next to a WRX ... I'm not thinking that I have more HP because some of them are modded to all hell ... nahhhhh I'm thinking one BIG FREEKIN HAPPY FAM-DAMILY.

OH AND THEN I blow their frickin doors off

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Apr 23, 2003 | 02:58 PM

#749

Speedlimit

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Why are evo owners going to be happy when the sti gets here?

Hi,

Because the new STI owners will stop "bench racing" and start driving and quit bothering us!

The STI is gonna be awesome and their speculation will turn to AMG's and finally an understanding of what EVO owners have been talking about.

FUN!!!

I look forward to owner feedback. They are both great cars and there should not be this tit for tat gamesmanship.

As long as STI owners are comfy with the fact that my EVO will be quicker for less money than a stock STI .... then OK.

Speedlimit ........

Apr 23, 2003 | 07:19 PM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Speedlimit
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Nobody will be happier to see the STI get here than EVO owners!

I agree! I'm sick of beating up on s2000's. Competition is what it's all about, no?