Nullify Fines For Loud Mufflers In California!
#137
EvoM Community Team Leader
My point is that it's a trigger for police encounters. The noisy Civic gets pulled over, the Aston Martin probably not. Class and race get compounded and these situations escalate.
You know how some firearms enthusiasts are absolutely against any gun control measures, which includes defending useless and ridiculous things like bump stocks? Well, I'm like that with exhausts. Neither bump stocks nor whistle tips are causes of irresponsible antisocial behavior. It's "feel good" legislation, it's performative.
Lames at home are comforted knowing that "something is being done" while sideshow meatheads in flip flops crawl out of their mustangs and get tazed. We're not really addressing the causes here, instead we're finding excuses.
That's pretty obnoxious, probably way past 95db though. Either way I'd talk to him instead of calling the cops.
You know how some firearms enthusiasts are absolutely against any gun control measures, which includes defending useless and ridiculous things like bump stocks? Well, I'm like that with exhausts. Neither bump stocks nor whistle tips are causes of irresponsible antisocial behavior. It's "feel good" legislation, it's performative.
Lames at home are comforted knowing that "something is being done" while sideshow meatheads in flip flops crawl out of their mustangs and get tazed. We're not really addressing the causes here, instead we're finding excuses.
That's pretty obnoxious, probably way past 95db though. Either way I'd talk to him instead of calling the cops.
#138
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We can't have laws or regulations, because if you violate them then you might encounter LEO? That's not a workable solution. You can't compare Vehicle code to 2A because your right to operate your vehicle on public roads was not amended to the constitution. Police are just people like everyone else, if we all walked in their shoes I'm sure we would have more empathy for the situations we put them in. That's not an excuse, we grant them a lot of privilege and authority, and they should be held to a higher standard because of it. It's my opinion that right now we seem to be holding them to a lower standard legally speaking then everyone else and that is a big problem.
#139
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#142
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You can save the crackpot youtube videos for the flat earth thread. If you want to make an argument you should at least be able to articulate it in your own words.
#143
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Cops have to fail an IQ test in order to complete the academy. They believe in enforcing the law, regardless of what the law is. I don't want to interact with them, especially not over some tubes. I think laws like the one we're discussing in this thread normalize harsh prosecution of victimless crimes. These laws add to an arsenal of weaponized fear. California's persecution of gun ownership is a great example of our automotive future. No pistol grips, no catalytic converters, no adjustable stocks, no race seats, no aftermarket triggers, no aftermarket wheels. It'll go on and on until you're in gutless, public transport, electric zipcar hell along with everyone else who can't afford the luxury or privilege of owning a performance car or protecting themselves with a weapon.
Also, anarchy is nice, it's about sharing and caring.
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#145
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i'm re-opening this, at least briefly -
https://www.thedrive.com/news/30117/...hicle-exhausts
i remembered reading this and forgot - the bill is gone, correct? back to fix-it tickets. lot of uproar when it happened, no one gives two ****s when it goes away
https://www.thedrive.com/news/30117/...hicle-exhausts
i remembered reading this and forgot - the bill is gone, correct? back to fix-it tickets. lot of uproar when it happened, no one gives two ****s when it goes away
#146
EvoM Community Team Leader
I heard about that too, just a little bit of proof that the system does work.
Bad news always travels faster than good.
Bad news always travels faster than good.
#149
Thanks for re-opening up this thread kyoo. Here are the links for more info.
https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fin...nia/u/25156459
https://www.aftermarketnews.com/cali...d-by-governor/
Sorry Kaj I posted up the links in the CA failed smog sticky, because this thread was closed. I know it really didn't have anything to do with that thread, but people were getting popped and state ref for loud exhausts, and wanted to share the good news.
https://www.change.org/p/nullify-fin...nia/u/25156459
https://www.aftermarketnews.com/cali...d-by-governor/
Sorry Kaj I posted up the links in the CA failed smog sticky, because this thread was closed. I know it really didn't have anything to do with that thread, but people were getting popped and state ref for loud exhausts, and wanted to share the good news.
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