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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 08:58 AM
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I'd be pissed too if I blew up my stock car, just a few months after buying it.
...and more false claims. If you are referencing me (which I would imagine you are since you quoted me) that statement is 100% false and easily provable as so.

You sure are reactive for somebody that said they don't care.

"I'd be too if all I spouted out where false claims to try and cover up my lack of facts"

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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JericM
You haven't viewed a single datalog of my car...
How would he have seen a datalog of your car? He has no choice but to speculate.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
You can get the from Owen developments out of the U.K.

Forced performance does not sell a BB 18k
It was my impression that FP used to import a great deal from the UK (Owen Developments), and this was merely another example of that. At minimum, I suspect that all BB FP turbos were converted by Owen Developments, and I have thought this for quite some time.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
...and more false claims. If you are referencing me (which I would imagine you are since you quoted me) that statement is 100% false and easily provable as so.

You sure are reactive for somebody that said they don't care.

"I'd be too if all I spouted out where false claims to try and cover up my lack of facts"

Again, welcome to the forum.
Please elaborate on how I am spouting false claims? The graph I posted shows 23.9psi at 3800rpm, which if you read my quote from earlier:

Originally Posted by JericM
Wow this sort of blew up. I took more logs late last night, I will post them up late tonight when I get home from work, car spools to 24psi by 3850rpm. There really seems like something is up with the fuel system on my car. We're hitting 92% IDC on pump gas, and it's not making much over 400hp. Chet asked me to order a Walbro 450, so that's on the way from maperformance. Really hoping we can get to 450whp on E85 if we overclock the injectors. Not sure why I'm see such high duty cycle on ID1000's and pump gas currently.
Also, how is an intake not a basically stock car? I read your thread.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JericM
I'd be pissed too if I blew up my stock car, just a few months after buying it.
Might as well prove you 100% incorrect with actual facts since that is what I keep asking of you.

Bought the car Oct, 2013:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post10997000

Plug failed on track from fuel starvation and took the motor out April, 2016:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/pr...l#post11602583

Also, not stock:

Originally Posted by razorlab

Power:
Resonated test pipe
Magnaflow catback with MAP 3" mod
AEM intake
Depo upper IC pipe
GM 3 port boost solenoid
ID1000cc injectors
AGP FMIC
Radium surge tank setup
Walbro 450 E85 pump in surge tank
OEM pump in OEM tank
E75 fuel (E50-E60 last time)

Handling:
Ohlins coilovers with 10k/10k spring rates
Whiteline rear swaybar, set at medium
Nitto NT01 275/35/18 tires
Enkei NT03+M 18x10.5 +30 wheels
+12mm front hub/wheel centric spacers
Whiteline KTA135 Rear LCA's
-3.2 (from -3.0 before) front camber, -2.1 (from -2.0 before) rear camber, 0 toe

Brakes:
Raybestos ST47 front pads
Raybestos ST43 rear pads
Centric Premium front rotors
Torque RT700 brake fluid
So, your statements "a few months after buying it" and "stock car" are 100% false.

Next.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Might as well prove you 100% incorrect with actual facts since that is what I keep asking of you.

Bought the car Oct, 2013:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...l#post10997000

Plug failed on track from fuel starvation and took the motor out April, 2016:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/pr...l#post11602583

So, your statement "a few months after buying it" is 100% false. Next.
Big woop, my mistake. You blew up a car with low miles. That sound better for you?

I don't care how you claimed it broke. It did. Sorry, minor bolt ons. I'd still consider that a factory-style car in my book.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:14 AM
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Keep this coming, honestly. It's a slow day at work and I love getting into an internet argument with an elitist!
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:15 AM
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Twisting your claim now that you are proven wrong. Sounds cool.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Twisting your claim now that you are proven wrong. Sounds cool.
Not as cool as blowing up a stock car on your own tune! Good stuff.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JericM
Not as cool as blowing up a stock car on your own tune! Good stuff.

Last edited by razorlab; Jun 29, 2017 at 10:16 PM. Reason: OT
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:24 AM
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This debate is not going well!
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JericM
Not as cool as blowing up a stock car on your own tune! Good stuff.
Tune isn't what made the motor fail, the amount of G forces in a high speed sweeping corner on a race track causing fuel starvation was the cause. In case you're not aware the X uses a saddle style tank. I won't bother explaining, you can research if you wish. But in a nut shell this would happen to your car as well...if it saw a road course. I race my Evo IX with NASA and can confirm the importance of a fuel surge tank
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
Tune isn't what made the motor fail, the amount of G forces in a high speed sweeping corner on a race track causing fuel starvation was the cause. In case you're not aware the X uses a saddle style tank. I won't bother explaining, you can research if you wish. But in a nut shell this would happen to your car as well...if it saw a road course. I race my Evo IX with NASA and can confirm the importance of a fuel surge tank
I'm well aware. His car had a surge tank though.
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JericM
I'm well aware. His car had a surge tank though.
I posted logs (amaze!) that prove it was not the tune that did the engine in. Do homework. Try to see beyond the red mist.
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Old Jul 1, 2017 | 08:11 AM
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Hey guys, don't mean to interrupt the pissing match but can we get back on topic. I know this isn't the best turbo and that's obvious but lets get back to discussing it. Logs would be nice so we can gather some conclusive evidence. I did some pulls last night. I will try post mine up later. But I can tell you I am not reaching peak boost until about 4600. And with the high temps and humidity in SWFL power isn't great at all. Built engine only making about 400hp with a correction factor of 3 on VDyno. And I really don't want to be that guy but razorlab you started off being harsh on this dude. I mean we get it. The turbo sucks compared to others. However I understand he hasn't backed up his claim yet, but ****, lets lighten up and get back to what this turbo is capable of. Enough tit for tat.
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