EVO X vs EVO IX, finally a test! MT
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boo to MT for doing this article too soon (most likely for sales), they knew they had an pre-pro X that was not 100%, yet they still go on with the test. since this very test is anticipated (maybe even more so than an sti shootout) to those on the boards
figures, they also broke the gt-r silence embargo
figures, they also broke the gt-r silence embargo
should be close?
You have to read what they said about the so-called "problem" with the motor. Straight from the article "Under normal driving conditions, the four-banger, as well as all the mechanicals around it, performed flawlessly, but as the tach needle tickled 7000 rpm, the engine came down with a soft wheeze, a symptom that most likely cost the X a 10th or two at the track and dragstrip.
So, they're saying the engine performed flawlessly within the useful powerband of the motor. The problem came after the torque and HP curves would be useless. So, they would only say the car lost 2/10ths at worst in all performance tests.
Face it, the X lost because it's overweight and underpowered compared to a IX.
So, they're saying the engine performed flawlessly within the useful powerband of the motor. The problem came after the torque and HP curves would be useless. So, they would only say the car lost 2/10ths at worst in all performance tests.
Face it, the X lost because it's overweight and underpowered compared to a IX.
On the track, might be closer. Will probably be faster than the X GSR, but still slightly slower than the IX.
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You have to read what they said about the so-called "problem" with the motor. Straight from the article "Under normal driving conditions, the four-banger, as well as all the mechanicals around it, performed flawlessly, but as the tach needle tickled 7000 rpm, the engine came down with a soft wheeze, a symptom that most likely cost the X a 10th or two at the track and dragstrip.
So, they're saying the engine performed flawlessly within the useful powerband of the motor. The problem came after the torque and HP curves would be useless. So, they would only say the car lost 2/10ths at worst in all performance tests.
Face it, the X lost because it's overweight and underpowered compared to a IX.
So, they're saying the engine performed flawlessly within the useful powerband of the motor. The problem came after the torque and HP curves would be useless. So, they would only say the car lost 2/10ths at worst in all performance tests.
Face it, the X lost because it's overweight and underpowered compared to a IX.
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The braking (it's only 2 feet difference which is nothing) and lateral G's are impressive. The figure 8 isn't...when was the last time you drove in a figure 8? Those stats did not go unnoticed.
And to the "health" of the car, Motor Trend said the "weezing" cost the X maybe 1/10th or 2/10ths time on the road course, 0-60 and 1/4 mile. So, let's give those extra 2/10ths to the X. It still loses in all the performance aspects that matter for an Evo.
And to the "health" of the car, Motor Trend said the "weezing" cost the X maybe 1/10th or 2/10ths time on the road course, 0-60 and 1/4 mile. So, let's give those extra 2/10ths to the X. It still loses in all the performance aspects that matter for an Evo.
3000ways...just accept that the X is overweight, underpowered, slower...and will be overpriced. It is what it is. All your hoping and praying that it will get better isn't going to change anything. It doesn't outperform the IX. Get over it. Go buy your underperforming X. You've got heated seats to make you feel better. And, all you'll ever see of any IX is their tail lights.
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3000ways...just accept that the X is overweight, underpowered, slower...and will be overpriced. It is what it is. All your hoping and praying that it will get better isn't going to change anything. It doesn't outperform the IX. Get over it. Go buy your underperforming X. You've got heated seats to make you feel better. And, all you'll ever see of any IX is their tail lights.
gotta love this, its like see a bad film over and over again,
this has to be the most close-minded statement i have read coming from X hater thus far.
this has to be the most close-minded statement i have read coming from X hater thus far.
3000ways...just accept that the X is overweight, underpowered, slower...and will be overpriced. It is what it is. All your hoping and praying that it will get better isn't going to change anything. It doesn't outperform the IX. Get over it. Go buy your underperforming X. You've got heated seats to make you feel better. And, all you'll ever see of any IX is their tail lights.
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1.7 seconds around a track is pretty substantial any way you look at it. Even if the X's motor was a little weak at 7000rpm, a few tenths slower still puts it at more than a second behind the IX. Thats quite a beating.
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3000ways...just accept that the X is overweight, underpowered, slower...and will be overpriced. It is what it is. All your hoping and praying that it will get better isn't going to change anything. It doesn't outperform the IX. Get over it. Go buy your underperforming X. You've got heated seats to make you feel better. And, all you'll ever see of any IX is their tail lights.
Why is it that Mitsu UK will warranty the FQ 360 and North America buyer have to void our powertrain warranties to correct this glaring deficiency? Nobody seems to want to discuss that here for some reason. An FQ 360 will likely beat a stock US MR IX in the 1/4 and would crush it on the track.
Given these results I would seriously question the wisdom of getting an MR with SST. If you can't mod the X down the road you may be really kicking yourself.
Can't wait to find out what the ARC X GSR is putting down...