I purchased the IX because I built a flux capacitor went into the future and I knew the X would not be any better than the IX...that's why...BTW in the future...you're still an idiot...

I am not a brand loyal person what-so-ever...if a manufacturer can not give me what me as an enthusiast wants and expects...well I'll take my green to someone that can...this is the good ol' American way...



99% of driving is done in a straight line for people that purchased the eVo as a DD...as oppose to getting a grocery getter...1% of the time I like to pretend I'm one of the racers from The Fast and the Furious and tokyo drift my way onto an on-ramp to test out the sophisticated AWD system my eVo came with...it makes me feel so much better inside that my car is worth nearly $36K NEW and I use it less than 1% of its time for what it is meant/built to do...

And aren't you the one that told me that the eVo is better than the vette because it is family orianted 4 door seating for 5 type of BS somewhere in one of your posts...and now you talk about racing the G35X agains the eVo...LOL...come on guy... so what are you really confused about...?


Again...$6K is not a lot of money if you finace it for 72 months...it will only be $50-$75 more...that's $2-$2.5 bucks a day...I **** that away on an average night out at a club/bar...

 

Obviously the Evo is the wrong car for you why did you even bother making this thread already? Or do you actually really like the Evo X but can't afford it so you are going to **** talk about the car to make yourself feel better about not owning one?

For God's sake by something else so they can deal with you on their forums

 

I agree with this post...the eVo is more practical DD...although I still think the vette has a more bling factor over the eVo IMO...as it portrays a rich status quo...The point is why is thinking it can be on the same level as the the German car manufacturer's? At the end of the day its still a and it should be priced accordingly...as it caters no certain people in the demographics...Disappointment comes to mind with the X...

 

Ok I don't understand you at all you are *****ing about the price being too close to BMW and then you go on and say stupid thing like "well $6k is not a lot of money it's only like $2.5 a day".

Plus I only see maybe on a good day 1 or 2 Evos on the street but I see dozens of Corvettes every day. So the bling factor goes to Evo for having an uncommon car.

 

Ehhhhhhh, you've purchased Evo IX as a daily driver???? You are not an enthusiast, you are a poser, but at least Mitsubishi made some money out of you.
99% of time you drive in a straight line? You should have not even touched an Evo, let alone buy it. As I mentioned, for straight line performance there are better options out there than Evo.

Ah, when I am right, I am right, analytical skills are not your strong suit. My point was that Vette and Evo offer different things. With Evo you can race or you can use it's 5 seats to go to a club with your friends, or you can use it's rather large trunk for it's class to put your groceries in. Evo and G35 is a bit better comparison but then again G35 is rather more of a luxury car with good performance but it doesn't corner as good. Lancer Evo is a difficult car to really compare against, it's a class of it's own, the only car available in US that really competes with Evo is STI. In Europe there are many more competitors.

finance a car for 72 months???? Average American keeps it's car for about 4 years (48 months), it's people like you who buy new cars when they still owe on the current car and the financial mess happens. 72 months of premium full coverage insurance on an Evo? Full blown dumbass

 

Dude...get off the soap box its getting old...I don't know why you can't see this simple point...People who can afford BMW's Benz's...Audi's...etc...will not all of a sudden come down to a dealership and trade their cars for the eVo X...NO WAY...I don't know why wants to appeal to those people anyways as this will never happen...they would have better luck appealing strictly to the enthusiasts as those people would trade in their IX's for the X's if the X's was a step up eVo...BUT instead basterdized the eVo name with the X...by trying it to appeal to a different demographic...It will be very interesting once the Ralliart Lancer comes out...That car should have been the car goes after to appeal to the vast majority...and should have left the eVo to the enthusiasts by making it raw and worthy of the IX successor...

You honestly think that a production eVo is really close to a rally eVo? If you think that...than maybe you have no clue what you're talking about...as the two are very different...its the name that stays the same as a sales tactic to sell the brand...and obviously its working as people like yourself are buying eVo's thinking its a pure bread rally machine as the one you see on TV...Last time I checked...my eVo has leather seets...CD player...heat...sound deadning...moon roof nice stereo...ALL those neccesities you will find in a really eVo for sure... SERIOUSLY

I am aware of the technology that provides...but to me especially here in the US 99% of it goes to waste...as people will never use it...its probably different overseas for sure...as its a more practical car there for the roads for example...Why you trying to aruge? At least make valid points and make me see it your way...

 

Did you ever think for a minute that you see more Vettes on the street because its a domestic car and the production numbers are a lot higher than the ones of the eVo? I don't see as many teeny boppers in vettes as I see teeny boppers driving eVo's...not in Chicago at least...Bling Bling symobolizes $$$...the last time I checked the Vette is more than the eVo...I'm not expecting you to understand what I'm saying...you're one of the teeny boppers I was reffering to anyways...

 

Dude, it must be the cold Chicago air that has your brain cells frozen. My point was that Evo is an enthusiast car and Evo X still seems to be. You have to factor in that there is some outside interference in car design that Mitsubishi has no real power to get over it such as new federal safety regulations which made the car heavier by 200lbs over the JDM Evo X. I am more than sure Mitsu could design some very light frame structure but then again that car would be much more expensive.

Mitsu did to Evo X what they did to Evo VII when it made it slower and heavier than Evo VI but guess what, people in Europe still bought it in significant quantities and even have FQ series where FQ400 costs around $85,000 and guess what, Mitsu sold them all.

Again, your reading comprehension skills, where did I say that Lancer Evo you can buy is the same as the one used in WRC? I just said that a lot of technologies in production Lancer Evo are derived from WRC car and are similar to those found in the rally car. But actually in P-WRC class, the cars racing there are pretty much cars you can buy in a showroom, just modified by individuals, not a factory supported effort.

Look at cars such as Ferrari, technology derived straight from an F1 car, but are they really the same? Of course not. A production Ferrari also has a sound system, leather seats, digital climate control. It's what you call race derived technology.


Again, then why even bother with producing an AWD car? Let me ask you this question again, why did you buy an Evo in the first place? AWD system in your car is worth approximately $5000, you should have saved that and bought a RWD car for straight line driving. You just make no sense at all and you are definately not the target audience for the Evo as you have no clue about the idea of this car. Next time you post something, please reread it and reanalyze it at least 10 times. It's a waste of server space.

 

YES...I purchased the eVo as a daily driver...what is so shocking about that? Its a practical car...4 doors...AWD makes it fun to drive in every weather condition...its peppy thanks to the 4G63 and Turbo...looks aggressive...what else can I ask for? It was either the eVo or an 04-05 STI as to me those are the most appealing years Subbie made...minus the ugly blue interior...

Its funny that you are calling me a poser...as both of us only had the pleasure to enjoy only 2 geneartions of the eVo...the VIII and the IX...so unless you are a foreigner to this country it makes you nothing more than a hypocrite by calling me a poser...

You're prolly right... made money on me...but I think I got a pretty good deal if you ask me...Got a SSL package on my IX with 1200 miles on it bone stock...still has plastic under the floormats and stickers on the inside of the doors for $29K...when the sticker price was a bit over $35.5...not a bad deal if you ask me...

I live in AMERICA...99% of the time I drive in a straight line...I can't help it...that's how the highway engineers designed the city blocks... So as you can see I have no use for the sophisticated AWD system...and it urks me to see people taking thier eVo's off road and get them all F**ked up from gravel...And the ones that take their eVo's to the track end up purchasing a new set of tires...and brakes assuming they are being easy on their cars during race day... I can't justify beating on my eVo or taking it off road to see what it can do or what it is meant to do...maybe one day when I'm rich enough I can go beat on my car like there's no tomorrow... What did you buy your eVo for? BTW: I own two Mustangs for the straight line performance already...


Whoever told you that you have analytical skills lied to you...But you can thank the American Educational System for that... When I mean the eVo is more practical car...I am referring to the words in bold that I highlighted for you... You're the one that pulled the luxury 4 door 5 seat family car...NOT ME son...hence I mentioned the G35X...

I agree that the eVo is a hard car to compare against anyothers when it comes to performance aspect...the one closest to it is the STI...Guess what makes it easier an easier comparisson? hint hint...THE PRICE TAG...



HAHAHA...I am a dumbass according to whom? YOU? oh that really is gonna make me lose some sleep over this thread now...Allow me to explain to you...You may be right about the whole average American keeping the car for 4 years and what not...Here is where you fail to awknowledge the benefit of having a 72 month loan...Get ready...cheaper monthly payment... At the end of the day...once you are ready to trade in your car...Regardless if it is a 48 or a 72 moth loan...Blue Book value is a blue book value...It just means that during the when one had their old car on a 72 month loan...the money they saved on monthly payments could have went elsewhere...like reading and comprehention classes or getting a high-school GED so one doesn't sound like a incompetent teeny bopper every time one responds to a post...hint hint...I think HE's talking to YOU

 

It doesn't matter how cold it is in Chicago...the difference is that MY parents didn't build a swingset right next to the wall...But YOU can thank yours for doing that...

The eVo HAS BEEN an enthusiast car...until the X...how exactly does the X appeal to the enthusiasts anymore? A lot of people who had the pleasure of experienceing more than just the two gens of eVo's unlike us here in the USA with the VIII and the IX...say that VI was the last true eVo...I'm not even gonna go there since all I can compare the past eVo's to is the VIII and the IX...just on that alone how much different is the X from the previous two gens we saw here in the US? Quite a lot...if you ask me...

Outside interference...LOL...BUT OK...I'll play along...So what stops beefing up the X to off set the 300lbs in weight difference? A wopping 5 HP increase does not off set the 300lbs weight difference...NOW if the X was like 320-340 HP...the 300lbs difference would not be as significant as it is NOW...

What did was basterdize the eVo name in hopes of selling more eVo's simply on its reputation...a way to recognize a brand name in their marketing tactics...What is now known as the eVo X should have been badged something else...like a Mirage or Galant...or whatever else just not the EVOLUTION...AGAIN...it will be very interesting to see what is going to happen to the eVo once the Ralliart Lancer comes out in 2009...

Don't compare Europe to here...who here in their right mind would pay $85K for the FQ-Series...that make a whopping what...360-400HP? NOT TOO MANY since you can spend $85K and get a lot more...You can get an LS1 or the 03-04 Cobras that make that to the wheels...BUT I know what you are going to say...the eVo does so much more than the straight line performance...which I completely agree...but tell me how exactly are you going to put the eVo to its max potential here in the states...where every road...city block is designed in a straght line? Have you ever been outside of the US...? You can see how the FQ-Series there might benefit more simply because the roads are not straight...you can see how the suspension might play a factor...etc...etc...but not here...I bet you haven't left your state...your home town...maybe not even your area/zip code... If somebody is willing to pay $85K for the FQ-Series here...it has to be an enthusiast with deep pockets and true love for the car...



Go back and re-read it and you'll find it...if you can't remember...Maybe you should tell me the technologies in a rally eVo vs street production eVo...yeah? Last time I saw a rally eVo it had a cage to stiffen up the chasis even more...not to mention underneath the car supports that support the jumps a rally eVo is capable of...real racing seats with functional racing seat belts capabilities...better brakes...not basterdize brembos...better suspension....I think the only thing that is the same with the two eVo is the name and the shell...and the 2 liter emblem on the motor... Modified by individual or not...don't tell me a street eVo can do the same things and withstand what a really eVo can...because that would just be silly...and prove my point that the street eVo is just writing on its rally counterpart reputation to gain sales...comprende amigo?

Do yourself a favor and stick to one car in question...the USDM eVo...not a Ferarri...or even the FQ-Series...etc...etc...you're just confusing yourself...


I purchased the eVo because it is a practical car...I can drive it all year long...it is a peppy fun to drive machine...and can be easily modified to obtain higher HP if desired...(a lot of potential) plus I got a good deal... the eVo has left the target audience long time ago...now you see teeny boppers driving eVo's

 

Well, I'll admit, I did fall a couple of times on my head as a child but who hasn't?

Well, the big part of Evo I-IX enthusiasm was the easily to mod 4G63T, I was born and raised in Europe so I do know for a fact that Mitsubishi is actually a well respected brand there due to it's WRC/Dakar heritage. And to me Evo VI is the FASTEST Evo VI ever made but I don't think it was the best handling nor best looking Evo made, interior was pretty atrocious too.[/QUOTE]

Mitsubishi admitted to Car&Driver magazine (or was it Motor Trend, it was either of the two) during testing of preproduction models that the first generation of 4B11T is understated and there is a lot of room for improvement. You also gotta take into consideration that Evo X is simply a more spacious car than the last gen Evo. Add to that the new stiffer chassis, 7 air bags, new safety regulations (stronger impact beams), and voila, you got your extra 300lbs, but if you have followed the car industry you would know that this is not only a Mitsubishi problem but whole car industry. Look at the new 335, it also weights around 3500lbs and with xDrive it weights over 3700lbs and offers about the same interior volume as Evo X with a slightly larger trunk space.

I am more than sure Mitsubishi could have upped the HP to 320-340 but that would probably mean less room for future improvement and probably even larger price increase.

I don't think they bastardized it, it's still a 290HP turbo AWD rally machine, you still can get a GSR that will weight around 3350lbs without navigation system if you want. I think you are referring to the decked out MR, but GSR still offers some value and the major reason MR increased in price was because of the SST tranny, the base GSR Evo X costs $34K, base Evo IX GSR was priced at around $32.5K, so an increase of about $1500, not that bad considering you get a more spacious,comfortable car with even better handling.

As I mentioned above, I was born and raised in Europe so I know how things look and work there and I agree that Evos AWD system is much more usable there cuz of the more twisty roads. But then again, straight line acceleration is not everything either. Check out this article: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...onclusion.html Mercedes offered faster performance but the editor still picked BMW M3 over it due to it's handling and composure. Different strokes for different folks. The guy who did the review drove a bunch of cars in his life so he knows what he is talking about, faster speed does not equal better car. And even if it did, you down my love for the cornering ability stating that most roads in US are straightlines, well and the highest speeding limit in US is what, 80MPH??? Everything over it is breaking the law so whats the point of offering a car with max speed of 200MPH when all you can get up to on public road is 80MPH

Also, check out what an $85K Evo is capable of: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ZWJjC648I tell me how do the people who own a Lambo, a car that costs 3 times as much must feel?

Anyway, we still don't know the real performance numbers of Evo X with SST, I'll hold my final judgment when it's released and tested, all the reviews that you have probably read or saw were of 5-speed version or a pre-production SST.

As far as rallying, one rally factory prepped Evo costs about $250K, and you would think Mitsu would magically offer the exact same performance for $35K? Of course not, racing derived technology means that it's a derivative of a technology meaning a scaled down version usually made of cheaper materials, they gotta cut corners somewhere. But the AWD system is the least basterdized piece and what really makes Evo an Evo.

Just giving examples to enlighten you even more.

And because of teeny boppers driving Evos, the actual cost of owning an Evo made it an unattractive car, it really hurts to pay more for the insurance than the loan rate. Anyway, I'll hold a final judgment for Evo X when I'll actually get my hands on one, right now it's a mixed bag of fruit, lot of speculation, a lot of reviews based upon preproduction models, we will have to wait and really see.

 

I thought the GSR was 3520lbs without nav?

 

yup, i think the mitsu sheet said 3517 base

 

No one can understand you. I don't even know why you are still on this forum. Obviously you are not going to buy an X or care much for it so why the hell are you still here talking about it? Get over it you *****ing about it being slow will not make Mitsu suddenly go "highbredcloud thinks our car is bad lets redesign it". Don't like it don't buy it, this is an Evo enthusiasts board not an Evo X haters board so don't let the door hit you where the doorknob should have bit you.

And you know what when I see a Corvette on the road I don't even turn my head when it goes by. When I see an Evo I usually try to take a peek and see what was done to it.

 

off topic but you can get a brand new 08 base corvette from chevy for 33k they are dicounting them like 11k fromt he original 44k