Should I get EVO X or wait for Nissan 370Z
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350Z is a very capable car that can do many things, kinda like mk4 supra. With some internal upgrades and twin turbo kit, it can make some monster power.
However, the car is usually regarded as a grand tourer with missing back seats due to the way it drives. The car doesn't do too well on fun factor scale, thanks to its shared platform and engine with trucks and family sedans. It is also amongst the most expensive to insure (along with the Evo), as a lot of teenagers receive it as a graduation gift, then wrap a tree with it within a week. A lot of the aftermarket parts are expensive especially if you are looking for quality, I would say almost E46 M3 level.
Both Evo X and 370Z are (and will be) fast cars in stock form with great potential for further performance upgrade, it really depends on what the purpose of your car and how much you are willing to spend further down the road.
However, the car is usually regarded as a grand tourer with missing back seats due to the way it drives. The car doesn't do too well on fun factor scale, thanks to its shared platform and engine with trucks and family sedans. It is also amongst the most expensive to insure (along with the Evo), as a lot of teenagers receive it as a graduation gift, then wrap a tree with it within a week. A lot of the aftermarket parts are expensive especially if you are looking for quality, I would say almost E46 M3 level.
Both Evo X and 370Z are (and will be) fast cars in stock form with great potential for further performance upgrade, it really depends on what the purpose of your car and how much you are willing to spend further down the road.
a supra has run 9s on a with no internal work, you cant come close to that with a 350z
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I bet you that a nismo Z (non 37 engine) will spank a stock 370z on any track... lol you must be on crack if you think 30 hp and -200 lbs will get you that much... LOL nismo Z's run circles around is350's and m3's all day long... what makes you think a stock 370z will do any better?
I have a VQ35... and they are SLOWWW pigs.. yes they have "more" potential... but thats only when you are spending the cost of a GTR in your 40K car. W/ an EVO you spend 4K and you will WALK all over VQ's w/ 15K in mods....
I have a VQ35... and they are SLOWWW pigs.. yes they have "more" potential... but thats only when you are spending the cost of a GTR in your 40K car. W/ an EVO you spend 4K and you will WALK all over VQ's w/ 15K in mods....
I bet you that a nismo Z (non 37 engine) will spank a stock 370z on any track... lol you must be on crack if you think 30 hp and -200 lbs will get you that much... LOL nismo Z's run circles around is350's and m3's all day long... what makes you think a stock 370z will do any better?
I have a VQ35... and they are SLOWWW pigs.. yes they have "more" potential... but thats only when you are spending the cost of a GTR in your 40K car. W/ an EVO you spend 4K and you will WALK all over VQ's w/ 15K in mods....
I have a VQ35... and they are SLOWWW pigs.. yes they have "more" potential... but thats only when you are spending the cost of a GTR in your 40K car. W/ an EVO you spend 4K and you will WALK all over VQ's w/ 15K in mods....
Now answer this: what makes you think you know how the 370Z is gonna be on a track? Have you driven one? Do you know the EXACT specs? Do you know what tires and what size are on the car? Do you know if there's any changes in gearing? What exactly DO you know about the 370Z? My guess... not much at all, like the rest of us.
You drive a slow-pig G35... of course you think all VQ35s are slow. A 13.1@107 is very respectable for a car right out the box ('07 350Z).
More potential when spending the cost of a GT-R? LMAO. $40k car? LMAO even more. You can get a Z for under $30k easy, and as of now the price for a base 370Z is a **** hair under $30k. I mean ****, it ain't cheap to build and boost a Z, but it sure as hell ain't THAT expensive.
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My comparison was more based on the driving feel rather than the capability of stock parts. Yes the Supra was far better car for its time than the 350Z, and still better than the 350Z when it comes to making ultimate power, but also the car cost almost double that of current 350Z if you count by today's dollar. What I am saying is that both cars have that GT feel interms of driving, competed in JGTC, and do fairly decent at drag/road race/auto-x with a little work on the cars.
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Both cars are good but it's what you perfer
a common car seen all over the place
or a car you don't see alot
plus nissan just called back 200,000 cars because of some issue
just thought ya'll might like to know
a common car seen all over the place
or a car you don't see alot
plus nissan just called back 200,000 cars because of some issue
just thought ya'll might like to know
Man i wish it was middle age white men. Every Z I see here in the chicago land area is driven buy and old white guy with white hair. I've come to think of the Z as the car old white guys who can't afford the vette get.
Now that being said, I also always see old white guys driving vettes but a vette is still my dream car.
Now that being said, I also always see old white guys driving vettes but a vette is still my dream car.
They're all circling the drain.
Yeah.. here, the Blue Blocker dudes drive the Vettes as well. I actually looked into a Vette before I got the 10. All the dealers I talked to seem to think what GM was doing with the "Employee Pricing" was good enough. They didn't/don't feel they need to discount them any more. Famous last words. They're all circling the drain.
They're all circling the drain.I don't know how well the 370Z will be by the time it comes out, but I'm pretty sure a C6 will sodomize that thing too. If the base model really is going to be about $30k then fine, but I bet it will be more like $38K with a couple of options in which case the competition from GM, BMW and all that comes into play.
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350Z insurance in much cheaper than evo's. 370Z is lighter and from what I have read may come close to 350hp should run possible high 12's stock. Considering most HR Z's already run low 13's stock. Warranty is better too in most cases plus its just a better built car.
Handling wise the last two track events I was in the fastest car there was an 03 BSP prepped Z that whooped just about everybody. They can be fast pretty easily.
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350Z insurance is much cheaper than the X? I find that hard to believe. My insurance coming from a 06 SI to the X was a whole 4 dollars more a month. I can't see the 350Z being cheaper than that. The X has AWD and 7 airbags which keeps the pice of insurance down. Whats keeping the price of the 350Z down?
350Z insurance is much cheaper than the X? I find that hard to believe. My insurance coming from a 06 SI to the X was a whole 4 dollars more a month. I can't see the 350Z being cheaper than that. The X has AWD and 7 airbags which keeps the pice of insurance down. Whats keeping the price of the 350Z down?
1) Average age group of people driving either cars (I would think Evo's population should generally be younger, so more expensive).
2) Repair costs. Again due to the Evo probably has a higher exposure to crash (due to #1)
3) Safety equipment and structure of the car may be a factor (350z/370z may have a higher safety rating due to the fact that it is an entry level premium sports coupe)
4) Theft (Evo may have a higher theft rate and worse car theft alarm compared to the Z)
5) Size of the pool (most likely you have more Z owners than the Evo, just because the Z is geared a little more for daily use)
And probably a few more factors when the insurance companies price these policies.
From an insurance perspective, my wife's G35S sedan costs $1 more every 6 months than my Evo.
The Evo was cheaper to insure than my Scion tC.
2 doors vs. 4 doors. I'd bet that the Evo is either the same price or cheaper to insure than the 2 door sports car Z.
The X has been out one season. The first guy to get serious shatters records and beats VIII and IXs by 3-4 seconds on an incorrectly tuned car due to a last minute intake change. VIII/IX driver admits that there's nothing he could have done to be competitive.
The only record likely to hold will be the mostly worthless (IMO) 1/4 mile bs.
Different region, different cars, different results. Here in Dallas, the lone entrant in BSP is typically a 350z. His times don't hold a candle to the STU prepared STi's and, honestly, I am a poor newb driver and I am pretty dang close to his times in NSTU. I am going to loan my car to a couple guys that are the leaders in BS (one daily drives a VIII) to see just how bad a driver I am. We'll see what they can do that I can't 
The Evo was cheaper to insure than my Scion tC.
2 doors vs. 4 doors. I'd bet that the Evo is either the same price or cheaper to insure than the 2 door sports car Z.
Haha 1 guy...have you forgot how many VIII's and IX's hold records?
The only record likely to hold will be the mostly worthless (IMO) 1/4 mile bs.
Handling wise the last two track events I was in the fastest car there was an 03 BSP prepped Z that whooped just about everybody. They can be fast pretty easily.
The new 370Z won't run high 12's and cost $33k. the marketing dept. at Nissan will let you believe anything you want long enough to put the car on the street- sort of like the hype with the GTR before they said that launch control voids the warranty. Not saying that they will be slow, but the GTR only runs mid 12's in the real world.
My prediction is 135/335 1/4 mile matching performance with a little advantage in handling.
My prediction is 135/335 1/4 mile matching performance with a little advantage in handling.
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The new 370Z won't run high 12's and cost $33k. the marketing dept. at Nissan will let you believe anything you want long enough to put the car on the street- sort of like the hype with the GTR before they said that launch control voids the warranty. Not saying that they will be slow, but the GTR only runs mid 12's in the real world.
My prediction is 135/335 1/4 mile matching performance with a little advantage in handling.
My prediction is 135/335 1/4 mile matching performance with a little advantage in handling.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...n_350z_feature
Says:
Base price: $28,525
0-to-60-mph time: 5.2 sec
Quarter-mile time: 13.7 sec @ 104 mph
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-350Z...lip-14619.html
says:
13.5 @ 102
I've not seen ANY stock 1/4 mile published by a "reputable" source below 13.5. As another posted said, getting a 370z into the 12's will take more than 200# (.2 seconds) and 30hp (.1s? depends on gearing and a whole lot of stuff).
Ask anyone that's taken a car into the 12's and beyond. It's NOT an easy thing to do.