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Originally Posted by GPTourer
Nice try. But you have to understand that the governing mentality of this forum dictates that no matter how many times the facts and proof about something are shown - there have to be at least ten reposts, arguments, wild conjecture and speculation, and then finally someone "discovers" the truth again, and we have to start the process all over.
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Originally Posted by allturbo
...ummm the only reason EVO's where made for production was that WRC required a certain amount to be sold to the public in order for them to compete. So unless Mitsu is dropping out of WRC forever, I don't see any V6's or whatever in it's future. Mitsu designed each evo 1-9 with the intent of rally racing in the WRC. That means 2L 4 banger.
BTW, unless Mitsu is using something other than the engine in the concept X, than we already know what the engine is going to be.
http://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/p...etail1343.html
From the link:
"Powertrain: MITSUBISHI Concept-X is powered by a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder DOHC MIVEC intercooler-turbocharged engine"
BTW, unless Mitsu is using something other than the engine in the concept X, than we already know what the engine is going to be.
http://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/p...etail1343.html
From the link:
"Powertrain: MITSUBISHI Concept-X is powered by a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder DOHC MIVEC intercooler-turbocharged engine"
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From: Davidson, NC
Originally Posted by A418t81
Yes, every diesel has had direct injection....thats one of the reasons its a diesel. However, when you add direct injection to a gasoline engine, it complicates things quite a bit. I'm sure if they add it, there will be headroom for more power...but not probably not enough to go bigger turbo. Also, OBD is simply a protocol and software, hardware tends take longer amounts of time to design, etc. I'm not saying that direct injection isn't or won't be the wave of the future, but its such a new technology right now that if mitsu does go with it, there won't be a whole lot out to make power w/ the X for most likely quite a while.
Well I dont know about the rest of you but I wanna see some numbers, people can argue over engine design, amount of cylinders, and the displacement all day but when it comes down to it there have been turbo charged 4,6, and 8 cylinder engines before...what really maters is what this powerplant can deliver.
And mitsu better come with it because I know everyone wants to see the X with a substantial improvement in horsepower and torgue...And bumping it up 10hp like the usual mitsu tactic seems to have been in the past isnt gonna cut it.
And mitsu better come with it because I know everyone wants to see the X with a substantial improvement in horsepower and torgue...And bumping it up 10hp like the usual mitsu tactic seems to have been in the past isnt gonna cut it.
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yeah but whens the last time a house could go over 240mph. maybe if it was a rocket house you could compare the two.
Originally Posted by cotmfk
I don't think the insurance should be $10k/month or more... that is ridiculous. Houses that cost $1.7m and a lot more don't have insurance anywhere even near that.
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But you don't drive your house down the street with idiots in other houses trying to hit you.
I still think it'd be less than 10k/month though.
~brian
I still think it'd be less than 10k/month though.
~brian
Originally Posted by cotmfk
I don't think the insurance should be $10k/month or more... that is ridiculous. Houses that cost $1.7m and a lot more don't have insurance anywhere even near that.
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"Powertrain: MITSUBISHI Concept-X is powered by a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder DOHC MIVEC intercooler-turbocharged engine"
My question is if they will add something new like:
Variable lift + Variable timing on both intake and exhaust.
Two stage intake manifold
Bi-turbo engine.
Variable turbo geometry.
Remember that after the Mivec the peak torque is 3000rpm instead of 3500rpm for JDM models.
The key is to bring the peak torque to 2000/2500rpm and keep it until the red line.
My question is if they will add something new like:
Variable lift + Variable timing on both intake and exhaust.
Two stage intake manifold
Bi-turbo engine.
Variable turbo geometry.
Remember that after the Mivec the peak torque is 3000rpm instead of 3500rpm for JDM models.
The key is to bring the peak torque to 2000/2500rpm and keep it until the red line.
If you want to see some pics of the next EVO engine check here:
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html
Originally Posted by EVOoperator
If you want to see some pics of the next EVO engine check here:
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html
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From: Jackson, MS
I really believe the X engine will be the 4G63 2.0L single turbo simply b/c of the cost factor. Mitsubishi Motors is at a critical juncture in its life and it can afford few risks. The 4G63, while aging, is still potent enough to compete in the present, despite its design dating back to the 1980s. That speaks volumes about the success this motor has enjoyed. It will probably have MIVEC on both camshafts and maybe even additional lift instead of just timing adjustments like in the IX. The target horsepower is no doubt going to be close to 300 hp. I'm guessing 320 at the absolute most.
Also, they are going to keep the price for the base model under $35,000 or else you will alienate your customer base. Younger Evo drivers need to be able to afford this car especially with an all new design that will be subject to public scrutiny for the first time. If the first year is well received, then sometime in the next few years we could see another motor. Just my 2 cents...
Jesse
Also, they are going to keep the price for the base model under $35,000 or else you will alienate your customer base. Younger Evo drivers need to be able to afford this car especially with an all new design that will be subject to public scrutiny for the first time. If the first year is well received, then sometime in the next few years we could see another motor. Just my 2 cents...
Jesse
From the document off this link...
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_im...tion2005_E.pdf
It looks like the good old 4g63 is getting sidelined for a lighter aluminum block version.
http://www.lancerregister.com/mlr_im...tion2005_E.pdf
MITSUBISHI Concept-X is powered by a 2.0-liter 4-cylinder DOHC MIVEC intercooler-turbocharged engine and delivers instant response across all engine speeds with flat torque that keeps pulling up to the red line. The new MIVEC engine replaces the cast iron cylinder block with aluminum to reduce weight.
This only improves not only fuel economy but also steerability and other vehicle dynamics. The MIVEC valvetrain brings environmental benefits, cutting fuel consumption and also reducing emissions. Another feature of the engine is that it is mounted with the exhaust manifold facing the rear. This layout improves catalytic converter purifying performance and also contributes to making
the engine lighter and more compact.
This only improves not only fuel economy but also steerability and other vehicle dynamics. The MIVEC valvetrain brings environmental benefits, cutting fuel consumption and also reducing emissions. Another feature of the engine is that it is mounted with the exhaust manifold facing the rear. This layout improves catalytic converter purifying performance and also contributes to making
the engine lighter and more compact.
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
I wouldn’t worry about the new engine making power. It was over-engineered to be able to deal with lots of power.
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The engines are designed to be turbocharged and supercharged, partly through over-engineering of the block, and use of large water jackets and metal areas around each siamesed cylinder.