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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by EVOoperator
If you want to see some pics of the next EVO engine check here:
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/world-engine.html
I was told the same thing about the engine being produced by Hyundai for Mitsu/Chrysler. The guy who told me this is in the industry and a huge EVO fan. His advise to me was to get the EVO IX since that is the last year of the 4g63. The next EVO is not going to be as good as the 8 or 9. The next EVO will be a 2008 model introduced at the end of 07. I will trade in my 05 8 on a 07 9 at that time and get the last of the best EVOs.
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Old Nov 12, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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Thats so damn far from now
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:44 AM
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Hyundai will not be the engine supplier for other makes. Only engineering was shared. DaimlerChrysler already is retooling one of their engine plants to build this "world" engine which will be used 1st in the Neon replacement, the Caliber. I can only assume that Mitsu will be doing the same for their Lancer plants.

Hyundai might be designing the block but they won't be building it for the others. In addition, the other details such as engine management, intakes, variable valve timing, etc. will be designed by their respective makers.

This collaboration also extends to the mid-size sedans (Galant, Sebring, etc). Eventually they too will share the same platform and Chrysler will lead the development on the V6 engine. This will replace Mitsu's 3.8L motor and Chrysler's 2.7L motor with a common block. The 4 cylcinder motor will likely be derived from the motor we've been talking about above. I'm not sure what Hyundai uses but this supposedly will affect the next generation Sonata. The Sebring/Stratus replacement is long overdue and will be the 1st car to get this platform in 2007.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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Based on the concept car, the Evo X is going to be an absolutely beautiful car. Even people who aren't into compact sport cars think that the Concept-X is a sweet looking car. I really think Mitsu will have a winner on its hands.

I'm not holding my breath for it, but the SEMA show Eclipse that had an Evo drivetrain would be a wonderful idea. But I don't know how well such a car would sell. The last GSX models never accounted for more than a few percent of overall Eclipse sales. I think this was mostly due the cost. Back in the late 90's an Eclipse GSX stickered for over $26K. In today's dollars, I would imagine that a new GSX would sticker at $36K on more (the current Eclipse GT is about $26K loaded).
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 08:21 AM
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There u go! a yellow version! hehe...
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Looks nice but its just so different...dont know if its for me. Looks too big i dunno maybe ill start to like it more when i see it in person
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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A loaded auto GT runs ~$28,700.

Mitsubishi can't afford to switch over to the world engines completely yet, so the current 3.8 will stick around for quite a while, so will the 4G69. It'll be 2009 when the new Galant and Endeavor come out before we see the new engines in those platforms. The Lancer's will see only one of the 4 cylinder's first, and eventually the other will show. The Outlander gets the new 3.0L 6, but again, it'll be the only option for a while. Each of the three manufacturers involved have their own plants to build the engines in Japan, the U.S., and Korea.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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If the 4g63 engine will not be in the EVO X, then I really doubt that the replacement will be as good. The 4g63 has been in production for 17 years and it has been perfected over the years. Any engine replacing it will have growing pains. If the new 2.0 engine is all aluminum will it be as strong as a steel block? If the new engine is open deck, then there is no way in hell it can handle as much extra boost as the 4g63.

Just as an anecdote I will share the story of the SR20DE and the QR25DE. Nissan used the indestructible SR20DE from 1989 to 2002 here and in Japan. In Japan it was turbo charged in the Silvia, in the US it was NA. With the SR20 you can slap an aftermarket turbo kit and put down 400 whp on stock internals and rev to 7800 rpm. It was that good.

In 2003 Nissan introduced the QR25DE in the Spec V. It SUCKED. It does not rev beyond 6100 rpm, it has an open deck design so it cannot handle beyond 6 psi of boost, and it blows headgaskets on the track under htolapping/racing conditions.

We had both the SR20 and the QR25 and there is no comparison between the two. Even though it is an old design the SR20 is head and shoulders better than the QR.

I really hope for Mitsu's sake that the new 2.0 is better than the 4g63, but I have serious doubts that it will be. That is why I will get a 2007 IX and wait until the new engine gets some years under its belt.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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sweet man
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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That was hilarious
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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You guys keep saying I hope they dont get rid of the 4g63 but bome on how do you know this thing won't be three times as good.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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has a bad habit of showing us one thing and delivering another. Case in point, 3rd and 4th gen eclipse. It'd be cool if the ten looked like that, but somehow I'm thinking it'll end up looking different.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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that **** looks ugly in every color u put it in ahahhaha
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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i want to like it so much, i really hope it grows on me.
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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I didn't like at first either but it has grown on me. I'd like to trade in the VIII MR for one in 2007 if I can swing it. But I may wait until 08 for them to debug it
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