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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by cleofis
arent the gs motors only like 90 something hp? i wanna see the pics asap! sounds like an interesting project--but theres gotta be something wrong..it just sounds odd for an eclipse engine to go in a lancer

off topic.. nice avatar cupoznj
Only in the 1g's. Those aren't 4g63's either. They're 1.8l...something else's. The engine is so overshadowed by its big cousin that I've personally never taken the time to look into it.

The GS didn't exist then. GS is 2g and up.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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Yeah, I don't think anyone was debating whether or not you could fit a 4G63 in this car, but, more that you probably CAN'T get it to work for less than 10K. Get some video of your car smoking a GS-T, and I'll believe you. Otherwise, I'm throwing the BS flag on this one.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 01:47 AM
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Zlancer is the only one that will probably see this in the car first being though he is the closes to me. and sorry Z. I will let u see those slips like I told you 3 weeks my car was broken into in front of my house b4 my trip to NJ. But like I said I didn't forget. I am a man of my word.

H&K the only thing that doesn't fit right was the power steering pump and A/C which is not needed I really don't care for it. and also ONCE AGAIN I NEVER SAID I WAS DONE WITH MY LANCER MOTOR. I have to send my motor to get it bore and stroked if possible which is very doubtful from previous information, find someone who makes valve springs and retainers port polish my head and so on and so on, we can go on forever about the stock Lancer motor. BUT like I said It's just the winter just tryin to get some result out of a plan in my head. As for the name calling my bad I admit it was childish once again my bad. Now the trans fits into the car and all of this is off of a GS Eclipse 2g. Cpu not a problem car starts while at work had A friend of mine do all the wiring for me today didn't really take him along time. yes custom piping is gonna be needed duh its a custom job. I'm not gonna lie to you something is wrong the tach is off by 3000rpmand there is a check engine light. not to worry I got plenty of time to figure it out. Now my Question is where am I spending all this money that you guys speak of. I have yet spent more than $1000.00

StreetLancer GS-T's can get with the regular Lancer motor no prob. and also GS-t's really aren't that impressive if my friend can take his stock GS eclipse and put a stage 2 Hahns Racecraft kit on it, and punish the crap out of a GS-T running 18PSI somethings wrong.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 05:02 AM
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There are a lot of Jersey Lancers closer to NoVa than Z.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 05:46 AM
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Not that I am taking sides....

EvoZ

If you are doing it, no need to prove it I feel.

You sound like you have a lot of knowledge and exp in custom work. If you want to put a freakin RX7 rotary motor in the trunk that is your brainchild and understand that many people will knock you for doing it because of their lack of understanding.

Everyone here has opinions, I found this out the hard way. Just requesting info on how big the outlet was on a header got me this reply "if you want it, find the size out for yourself! i'm not going out of my way for you, but they are already SOLD".

Straight up if he said that to my face he would be in some serious pain.

Moral of the story, for everyone.

If you got it you got it. If you don't, stop hating on people who have "stranger" ideas than you.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 05:55 AM
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Two more cents

My roommate got me into the tuner gig. I was always big on custom installs; radio's, remote start's, sunroof's...... Never engines or speed related performance upgrades. I hated people buying a $13,000 used whatever 4-cylinder car and investing $30,000. Especially Honda's since everyone has Honda's.

But, after some reading, I noticed that these tuner guys have the greatest hobby around. They make unprecedented gains in their engines, which is amazing. My dad being an old school 8-cylinder man cannot understand how a car with half the volume can produce more HP.

If he can respect this game, all you kids can too. No matter what the cost is, time or money.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 06:28 AM
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I don't think any of these arguments have been against the possibility so much as the practicality. The only things you're gonna gain are going to be stronger internals, a cam, and higher revs. But at what cost in money and manpower?

As opposed to the swap as I am (I think the 4g93T or 4g93E with proper orientation is the only real option for an engine swap) I do NOT doubt that it CAN be done. It just seems that every word of caution offered has been ignored. The fact that there are already about 3 dozen of these threads is a shining example that people don't care to read/listen. The fact that nobody on these forums has performed the 4g94 to 4g63 swap is a testament to the difficulty vs gains issue that is the biggest deterrant (sp?).

Like it was mentioned before, you don't drive a H&A car. The engines will NOT swap like b series engines. You could easily show them up for the most part, but the 4g63 isn't necessarily the answer. In fact it's a complicated, time consuming and labor intensive way of going about getting a faster car. I doubt anyone here will be pushing the 4g94 to its limits, though some of us may get a good bit of power out of it.

EvoZ, I'm in northern Jersey. Not terribly far from zlancer (maybe an hour). If you DO go through with this, despite my protests, I'd like to get a look at it if you would. I don't mind driving. Hell, if you can do it feel free to rub it in my face.
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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i think this argument arose because of the wealth of information already invested in this topic. evoz felt that he had to "prove" something by swapping. he also didn't make his reason clear, wanting to use it while he gets his 4g94 worked on (which confuses me cause he said he does work himself but sends the motor out, and had your friend wire everything, etc....i guess you do bolt ons?). so if an apology is needed, i will offer one, however next time make your intentions clear. i don't think this thread was necessary from the beginning considering that there are already many others with a lot more useful information, as this one is just "it can be done!" "no, it's stupid!" etc.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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Whats up so far everything is good so far, but broken motor mount on the transmission just totally came off from the trans case. And once again........ I do read mr. CUP and if you do as well you would know that when I said I send the motor out it gets bored and stroked, pistons, head work the whole nine, and so on and so on. I don't own a machine shop, but if I did BELIEVE ME I would do it myself.

Yan. THANX DUDE. at least I know someone understand. Well guys I'll holla. LATERZ.

[B]H&A
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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That thread provided a good amount of entertainment. I love stubborn people. I also love people who claim to have all motor Lancers running 14.1, or 14.2 or whatever. The best part though is the fact that this guy will go to great lengths to fire back at all the nay sayers like its personal. I laugh, people are telling you its a waste of time to help you out, not throw it in your face bud. Calm down, and good luck with your money pit. Oh yea, and instead of *****ing back at me, put that energy into the motor swap, Im sure Ive created enough tension that you will be able to fix that motor mount in no time....
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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did he say he ran a 14.1 all motor???

i'd have to put up the BS flag right there.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 10:42 PM
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a few people have been sayin that
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Question Z, do you know this guy, he brought you up on one of his posts. I mean as someone else said, if hes doing it, well good for him. Either way, if ya ever run ino this car, ya gotta come back and tell us how his project is going.
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by EvOZrally7
OK I worked with what I have and its not fast enough. the fastest i've got my car was 14.1 at Capital raceway in Maryland just before the season ended. so now just for the winter I would like to research any new and upcoming things to my car. anything no matter what. And the cheap shots just because I don't YET own an Evo are lame. So I understand these questions have been asked before but since you guys are so smart I figured you guys would know that the 4g63 isn't just a turbo motor wether its an EVO or an Eclipse.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Sure and thats in your N/A Lancer. Lets put this in perspective: A 97 mustang cobra w/305 pulls those kinda times stock. Your telling me your 120hp lancer is doing the same with a few bolt on mods.....I've seen less crap in a huny bucket before.
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