100% not improper tuning, unless you count tuning from the factory improper. Many 100% stock / factory cars have failed from this. 2008 till 2011 of my knowledge. Possibly beyond. But a close friend of mine had ringland problem on his 2011. Completely stock.

 

Thats what i had thought. That it only affected the new model. I was really leaning sti until I read about the ringland. Its such a shame. Hope Subie fixes it when they come out with the new design

 

Did Subie warrant it for him?

I always hear about the ringland issue's in the sti's. Do the WRX also have the ringland issue?

 

Yes they do.

It's the STi owners that scream the loudest and so they should because you expect a 36K car to not blow up on you with paper plates still on.

I had an 08 and everything fell apart except the ringlands.... go figure.

 

I don't think he tried. He bought a built long block so he wouldn't have that issue again.

 

He didn't try? He could have had them warrant the issue. Then buy his built long block. Then turn around and sell a good working motor.

 

My previous car was an 05 STi. I loved it. Never had a real problem with it, but it's the older EJ257, and the newer one does have some issues.

I would go back to owning a Subie no prob. If you can keep it stock (maybe the SPT intake and a CBE only) then I wouldn't worry about ringland issues because it will be covered. I mean, it's not like you buy a X for the warranty, and even though the 4B11T is a better engine IMO, I'm still planning to build the hell out of it, which is just the same as buying an STi and paying for an engine rebuild.

Anyhow, my extra car in my house that gets used by my me, my wife and mother-in-law is a 2012 Legacy Prem. I had a much better experience with sales at Subaru than Mitsu. I feel I have a better value in the Scooby than I have in the Evo, but it's boring as hell...just what I wanted for something I would have no intention of modifying. Service department at my local Subie dealership rocks too.

I own an Evo because I want power and I want to counter-crush cocky bastards that spend for what they have, but don't understand how it works.

If I needed to give up what I want and have more of a family car with kids etc, you'd see me in a WRX, Jetta TDI, or small SUV. Then I'd start building a project..probably another 67-70 VW Bug.

 

I decided not to get a WRX/STI mainly because of the ringland issue. If I saw people complain about it who modded their car or tuned in-properly or dogged it all the time etc, then I wouldn't have really thought to much about it. But I have read many who have said it happened to their stock car and at early mileage as well. It was enough to keep me away.

And I think almost any other car manufacture dealership will treat you better then a Mitsu dealership. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some good ones. But my experiences with my local dealerships have been awful and one of the many reasons why I was trying to convince myself to go with a car other then the Evo.

 

Yeah, but if your car is under warranty and you haven't done anything that is obvious about causing a denial claim,..and we aren't talking about Mitsu warranty, Buy the car, enjoy it.

Local guy bought a 2010 Evo X in RR. He had less than 8k miles on his Evo and the intake cam broke in two. No chain stretch either. All he had was intake, UICP, and CBE. The local Mitsu dealer is actually really great and covered it for him. But broken cam...I would of never thought that would happen.

**** happens, want a car with power, **** has a better chance of happening and usually ends up costing more. Porches break, and cost 3x what the Evo does. Aston Martin's break, and you sip your champagne while you pay out the *** for the repair. Honestly even a damn Corolla is expensive these days, but chances are stuff won't break. But that's not to say it wont.

 

Don't do it it would be a crazy downgrade and you probably wouldn't like it as much, unless you don't like your Evo?

 

If you are asking me...hell no!! I love my Evo. Even in it's slow stock form. But if my Evo was to ever get stolen or totaled and the WRX didn't have the ringland issues, I would most definitely consider one. Especially price wise. You can pretty much get a loaded WRX for the price of a base Evo. But I did my research prior to purchase and have been a Mitsu fan since a kid and Evo fan since 03. Like others have said, both cars are overall good choices. Each had their own positives and negatives.

 

Went to a few dealerships already. If i order now they said it will come by november or december. But then again the new wrx/sti might come next year don't you think? I just saw pictures of test mules on the internet.


I love my evo but i think i want a new car. At first i was thinking of getting a GTR but then i realized that's too much money for a DD.

 

careful you people saying subaru will warranty it. i know of 3 people personally on my local Indiana subaru forums that have had at the most only parts covered (1 person, other two were fully charged for repairs). subaru has been very slippery with handling the ringland failures that come in. apparently they went as far as researching via internet the owners "hobbies" (autoX, rally, etc). Told one of them that "you probably over-revved the engine causing damage" and didnt cover a bit. Needless to say, he traded it in and bought a mazda speed3.

i was in the market for an 08+ GR subaru, was my dream car, didnt care about all the fuss with the ringlands, figured immature teenagers beating the cars up. but then the other reports started trickling in about stock motors going sour. so now i have an evo8 haha.

 

I'll ask today. All I know is he had a built engine in his car within 2 weeks of his engine being blown. So was assuming he didn't mess around.

 

So, let me deduce that someone that is into AutoX and Rally and has an engine failure is 100% likely to have a totally stock engine?

I'm saying, if he's is getting a new car for family reasons, and mentioned he's not going to mod it he will more than likely not have any coverage issues. I mentioned intake and CBE, because you can buy the SPT intake and exhaust FROM Subaru. It's not like the Evo where all they sell are different colored factory parts as aftermarket. The SPT stuff from Subaru are basically re-badged Cobb parts too. The quality is really good. Just like buying TRD stuff for your Toyota, Subaru honors the warranty on your car with them, but Subaru is picky about it being those parts on the car.
Here's a link to the current ones..not seeing the intake anymore, but the CBE is still there.
http://www.subaru.com/enthusiasts/pe...nce-parts.html


So, to me it sounds like one dealership in your area has a lot of customers (your friends) with modified rides coming in with blown ringlands and your friends reverted their cars to stock before hand. The dealership sees the car stock, but notices missing bolt here or there or a a different than OE gasket and is putting the pressure on them about their warranty.

If I were them, I would just lawyer up and get my car fixed...but I wouldn't be hitting up the dealer for engine coverage if I knew I mod'd my car (same as how I'm treating the Evo).