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However, I think you took too much offense to the under 300 bhp "speculation." Understand that the IX was rated less than 300 on paper, but that didn't mean it was reality. Advertised bhp and actual bhp are two separate things. Who cares if the X will be underrated on paper. I know I don't. I don't care that 286 is the advertised bhp rating for my IX, when in reality it's over 300.
That 311 torque number is definitely underrated, also. Mitsubishi doesn't want a horsepower scandal on their hands. It's better to be under than over what's advertised.
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How many of you have driven all variants of USDM Evos or have talked to or read about people who have? Same goes for cars like the Porsche 997 Turbo versus the 997 GT3 or my previous example of the F40 compared to the Enzo. If we're talking about the pure art of driving, then those cars that have less driver's aids are the cars that are more fun. I'm not saying that GT-Rs aren't fun. Rather, as a driver, I want more control of what my car is doing as opposed to the car having more control. You guys are misunderstanding me here and taking offense. I'm not saying that the X will not be a fun car. In my opinion, the RS will be the most fun.
To me a fun car will be the car that will allow me to go as fast as possible. That's the purpose of S-AWC, to allow any driver even a professional race car driver to be faster. I will take any type of technology to increase my speed.
If you want to have more fun without any driver aids, then you should drive a rear wheel drive or front wheel drive car. To me AWD is also a driver aid. Anything that makes you faster is a driver aid.
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Thank you for your opinion.
To me a fun car will be the car that will allow me to go as fast as possible. That's the purpose of S-AWC, to allow any driver even a professional race car driver to be faster. I will take any type of technology to increase my speed.
If you want to have more fun without any driver aids, then you should drive a rear wheel drive or front wheel drive car. To me AWD is also a driver aid. Anything that makes you faster is a driver aid.
To me a fun car will be the car that will allow me to go as fast as possible. That's the purpose of S-AWC, to allow any driver even a professional race car driver to be faster. I will take any type of technology to increase my speed.
If you want to have more fun without any driver aids, then you should drive a rear wheel drive or front wheel drive car. To me AWD is also a driver aid. Anything that makes you faster is a driver aid.
So it is a funner car, I guess.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/au...ef=automobiles
Too many guys get their panty's all in a bunch over the preliminary numbers and figures. Just sit back and relax until we see what the USDM evo brings to the table. Just don't be surprised if it's rated under what everyone is anticipating. With the addition of the SAYC, SST, etc, track times will most likely still be quicker even if the power is the same or lower than the IX. I just hope the engine can handle some abuse!
If only I had the money ... because to match the Evo's handling and steering in a RWD car would mean Lotus, Porsche or Ferrari. Also, I would more gravitate towards the more expensive Porsches and Ferraris opposed to the slightly cheaper Lotus for safety reasons and size considerations. None of those Euro makers make a car (not SUV) that's as practical as the Evo, either. My Evo doesn't have ABS. At least I have full control of my brakes. Also, I'm not the only one whom thinks that the IX RS is the funnest of all USDM Evos. Not all people who buy the RS want to track the living daylights out of it or are guys that can't afford the slightly more expensive Evos and buy the RS as a compromise. I could've bought the MR, but after a year-and-a-half of research, I decided that the RS was the Evo, no, the perfect car for me, period.
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Too many guys get their panty's all in a bunch over the preliminary numbers and figures. Just sit back and relax until we see what the USDM evo brings to the table. Just don't be surprised if it's rated under what everyone is anticipating. With the addition of the SAYC, SST, etc, track times will most likely still be quicker even if the power is the same or lower than the IX. I just hope the engine can handle some abuse!
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This is not a fast car. But it allows the driver to have a lot of control.
So it is a funner car, I guess.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/au...ef=automobiles
So it is a funner car, I guess.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/19/au...ef=automobiles
Very funny. And I thought you were on my side. You guys can make all the fun you want.
To better understand my point, check these vid's out ... part 1 ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=djn_R7N7B1I ... part 2 ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5oVAO9uQr4 ... and part 3 ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=pSN4WEIqwOo ... great watches.
Man, and you'd think that I called your child ugly and stupid. I'm an Evo fan, too, you know. LOL
And how would you know? Have you driven it yet?
Also, you guys are missing my point about less is more. How many of you have driven all variants of Evos? Let me guess, once you hear that a car has no radio or manual windows you immediately dismiss it and refuse to drive it.
You guys are in a box that you don't want to look outside of. For once, try to think outside the box and think that computers can get in the way of pure driving.
Understand that the X will now be available to all drivers, what with its auto gearbox and all. It is a common fact that people that drive manual gearboxed cars are more focused in their driving and in turn are better drivers, period. Now, all skills of drivers will be able to drive an Evo here in the States. More driving aids isn't such a bad idea. A lot of people will need to "bandaid" their driving mistakes with the X, and S-AWC will be the perfect bandaid.
Also, you guys are missing my point about less is more. How many of you have driven all variants of Evos? Let me guess, once you hear that a car has no radio or manual windows you immediately dismiss it and refuse to drive it.
You guys are in a box that you don't want to look outside of. For once, try to think outside the box and think that computers can get in the way of pure driving.
Understand that the X will now be available to all drivers, what with its auto gearbox and all. It is a common fact that people that drive manual gearboxed cars are more focused in their driving and in turn are better drivers, period. Now, all skills of drivers will be able to drive an Evo here in the States. More driving aids isn't such a bad idea. A lot of people will need to "bandaid" their driving mistakes with the X, and S-AWC will be the perfect bandaid.
Why dont you look at what i drive?? before you talk
Man you talk about less is more liek you've experienced it all before
You swear you drive your car hard enough to tell the difference in weight between yours and a regular evo, and if you had abs or not.
Most of us buy these cars just to have a faster than average car and a more than average fun car. I bet most evo's on this board don't even make it to the track.
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The quoted weight for the IX was 1410/1390/1320 (GSR/GT/RS)
The quoted weight for the X is 1540/1520/1420
For all but the RS this means a difference of the dreaded 300 lbs. Why is this good news?
The quoted weight for the X is 1540/1520/1420
For all but the RS this means a difference of the dreaded 300 lbs. Why is this good news?
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Does it need to be pointed out that neither have you? Just in case you haven't seen the videos, the S-AWC system is going to *gradually* effect the car's handling and will be more of an aid to get the most of the X rather than bailing out bad drivers. You can still get the rear to step out, and you can still get in over your head.
Again, the same can be said for you. It is possible that computers can enhance "pure driving" by allowing the driver to concentrate more on the act of driving than on keeping the car in-check at 10/10ths.
You will have to get used to it. As of 2012 ALL cars sold in the US must have an AYC type system.
Also, you guys are missing my point about less is more. How many of you have driven all variants of Evos? Let me guess, once you hear that a car has no radio or manual windows you immediately dismiss it and refuse to drive it.
You guys are in a box that you don't want to look outside of. For once, try to think outside the box and think that computers can get in the way of pure driving.
You guys are in a box that you don't want to look outside of. For once, try to think outside the box and think that computers can get in the way of pure driving.
Understand that the X will now be available to all drivers, what with its auto gearbox and all. It is a common fact that people that drive manual gearboxed cars are more focused in their driving and in turn are better drivers, period. Now, all skills of drivers will be able to drive an Evo here in the States. More driving aids isn't such a bad idea. A lot of people will need to "bandaid" their driving mistakes with the X, and S-AWC will be the perfect bandaid.
Turtlelancer, you said that the X is fine just the way it is. How could you know that? It's not even out yet.
There is more to an RS than its lighter weight. You can't deny that the RS is the most raw Evo. Also, not having ABS, yes, I can definitely feel that.
There is more to an RS than its lighter weight. You can't deny that the RS is the most raw Evo. Also, not having ABS, yes, I can definitely feel that.
Last edited by EVO X Owner-2-B; Aug 20, 2007 at 05:04 PM.
I think the X's will come out with more than 280hp when they come to the usa. From the looks of it I think the U.S. got the better end of the deal as far as hp goes. If the Evo X has 280hp as the U.S. version I think a lot of people will be very dissapointed.
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