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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Question Lancer Turbo Engine Management Question

I just got the RRM non-intercooled kit installed on my car. I am really happy with it but I have been looking around and been seeing people talking about engine management systems that they have installed on their cars. I was wondering if I can get one installed on my car with the turbo and what it would do? Would there be any bennefit to having one or not? Plus if so, who makes the best one? If anyone who knows about this stuff let me know I will be very thankful.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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ehhh.. benefits are that you can monitor more and tune the car more.. so unless you know how to tune you're dumping money into buy the item.. having it installed and having it tuned.. at the non i/c level its useful but we can't get the full potential of the product.. but if you still want something like that.. the GReddy E-manage is a good piggyback.. or get a whole new ECU for your car.. AEM EMS..

btw, with the stage 2 RRM turbo kits they get you a piggyback with a set fuel map to run your car safely at 9psi.. so its basically a pretuned piggy.. from what i understand.. boe might get in here and let you know more.. or someone more knowledgeable than I.

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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Research. From the what you've presented in this thread I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's best for you to KISS (keep it simple stupid. if it ain't broke, don't fix it) until you learn a lot about EFI and engine management. The ability to tune can fix problems and create power or it can totally destroy a motor in the wrong hands.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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so says the man from tragic experience, who didnt learn from it himself and isnt keeping it simple lol, but dont blame him.

i havent decided on whether or not to go further right now (but knowing me, i wont stop). if i do go further, i may try out the microtech which is new to the US, but has been getting great reviews. ppl say that it is very userfriendly. the fastest USDM Lancer is using it so im confident in it and plus my friend will be installing his on his rx7 next week and dynotunign the following and i will be there and he will be able to help me with mine too. plus i will be getting a good deal on it, if i get it.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:47 AM
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My problem has/had nothing to do with engine management and everything to do with fuel delivery. The tuning is relatively easy if you've done the amoun of research I have (not a cakewalk, but not out of my league), and believe me I've done quite a bit. I've got one 2 1/2" binder (I finally organized about 1/4 the info) FULL of tuning PDF's and threads from the AEMPower forums.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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ha i forgot soem words, what i meant was that you didnt use your won advise of keeping it simple bc you want speed and will go thru the trouble for it.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:03 AM
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Well, I think it was a matter of making a ton of changes at once, thereby making it more difficult to troubleshoot. If I still have fuel delivery problems I'm going to get new injectors.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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what size you running you have in right now and how much boost you planning to run with them?
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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440cc WRX Injectors. I suspect that is the FPR was no the problem then the injectors are. I don't know what I'm going to run with them yet. Right now it's a matter of getting the car street ready again. Anyway, we're hijacking this guy's thread.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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No problem! I am interested in what everybody has to say about this whole idea of getting one. It seems like a lot of work and brings up the possibility of more issues, which I don't want to deal with. As Hobie said, KISS.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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As long as you're not boosting more than around 9psi (which I believe is the most the FMU can handle on its own...someone from RRM could probably correct me if I'm wrong) then you will be doing yourself a favor by not complicating things.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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pretty much sounds like I'm not going to go through the hassel of complicating things for myself. I was just interested in how this thing would work and if I would get anything from it but it seems like I really wouldn't except fo maybe a headache. Someone brought up the idea to me about putting one on so I had to at least check it out. Oh well, looking towards the next mod.
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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Well in combination with a WBO2 you would be able to better monitor and tune your fuel and AFR, and, depending upon what you used to tune, you could possibly also mess with ignition timing. If you were to go full standalone you basically have the ability to mess with EVERYTHING the ECU controls (which is almost every part of the car).
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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Hobie can you send me those pdf's. I am just curious about the whole tuning thing. Knowledge is power!
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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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http://www.aempower.com

Just check the forums. That's where they all came from.
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