One more 16g thread - few questions
I bought the following today...very exciting:
stock 8 Intercooler and piping
16g6 turbo
o2 housing
oil feed that comes on it stock
oil return
jpipe
oem downpipe
evo8 "plastic" bov /wince
I updated my first page with fuel requirements...though I don't think I fully understand them. If copying the RRM kit, the walbro and vortech 12:1 fmu should be ok.
Is getting the walbro and using an aem 25-300 an alternative to this, since it increases fuel pressure under boost, making the fmu un-needed? I know I read a thread about this somewhere, and now I can't find it (someone's build thread). If you know where that was, point me there if you don't mind.
Also, if you just want to add "I would..." that would be helpful as well. Like...if I plan to initially run 5psi, just to warm up and really learn to tune nicely, I still need the walbro and something increase pressure, true?
stock 8 Intercooler and piping
16g6 turbo
o2 housing
oil feed that comes on it stock
oil return
jpipe
oem downpipe
evo8 "plastic" bov /wince
I updated my first page with fuel requirements...though I don't think I fully understand them. If copying the RRM kit, the walbro and vortech 12:1 fmu should be ok.
Is getting the walbro and using an aem 25-300 an alternative to this, since it increases fuel pressure under boost, making the fmu un-needed? I know I read a thread about this somewhere, and now I can't find it (someone's build thread). If you know where that was, point me there if you don't mind.
Also, if you just want to add "I would..." that would be helpful as well. Like...if I plan to initially run 5psi, just to warm up and really learn to tune nicely, I still need the walbro and something increase pressure, true?
So walbro first, then more than 5psi injectors and scale the ecu for them
Also...this all means I can replace the fuel pump "pre-turbo" since the FPR still does it's job regulating how much fuel gets injects, so I might as well order that and get it installed early.
Side note.....the buick's motor mount has been replaced, the belt fixed, the tensioner is back in working order and the power steering leak is fixed. I now have a suitable car for use when the lancer is down!
(small back story here, my wife hit a speed bump in her buick at about 50, smashed the passenger motor mount to pieces, clipped a powersteering line, tore the belt to shreds.......and then kept driving it for 2 days without telling me. "honey, why is my car overheating???" This is also my bargaining chip for installign the turbo - she gets to spend 25000 on a car...I get to spend 2k on a turbo)
Specifically geared to the guys who flashed the evo rom, or got an evo ecu...
Do the larger maps in the evo rom help at lower boost levels, or cause more confusion during (initial) tuning?
Anyone with a turbo'd lancer...
How do you guys feel on the highway, just driving an hour to see a friend. Does the car seem "unhappy" sitting at 3500 rpm's doing 80 mph for extended amounts of time?
Oh...and the power steering pump pulley broke on the wifes car, the turbo project is "on-hold" until I get that fixed, and get paid again. ...sigh, where are my "unlimited funds" already...
Do the larger maps in the evo rom help at lower boost levels, or cause more confusion during (initial) tuning?
Anyone with a turbo'd lancer...
How do you guys feel on the highway, just driving an hour to see a friend. Does the car seem "unhappy" sitting at 3500 rpm's doing 80 mph for extended amounts of time?
Oh...and the power steering pump pulley broke on the wifes car, the turbo project is "on-hold" until I get that fixed, and get paid again. ...sigh, where are my "unlimited funds" already...
Specifically geared to the guys who flashed the evo rom, or got an evo ecu...
Do the larger maps in the evo rom help at lower boost levels, or cause more confusion during (initial) tuning?
Anyone with a turbo'd lancer...
How do you guys feel on the highway, just driving an hour to see a friend. Does the car seem "unhappy" sitting at 3500 rpm's doing 80 mph for extended amounts of time?
Oh...and the power steering pump pulley broke on the wifes car, the turbo project is "on-hold" until I get that fixed, and get paid again. ...sigh, where are my "unlimited funds" already...
Do the larger maps in the evo rom help at lower boost levels, or cause more confusion during (initial) tuning?
Anyone with a turbo'd lancer...
How do you guys feel on the highway, just driving an hour to see a friend. Does the car seem "unhappy" sitting at 3500 rpm's doing 80 mph for extended amounts of time?
Oh...and the power steering pump pulley broke on the wifes car, the turbo project is "on-hold" until I get that fixed, and get paid again. ...sigh, where are my "unlimited funds" already...
19lbs of boost its turnes to gallons per mile not miles per gallon especially since i get a heavy foot from time to time. but 37mpg is really good if your calculations are correct. but lancer dont even get that type of mileage stock with no boost!!!
So, since the turbo is just lightly spooling, if at all, it doesn't over heat or anything....no problem with a 10 hour drive or anything? I don't typically do such things, just wondering I guess.
way to not tell me!!! if this "piece-o" plastic one breaks, I'll know who to call. Damn it though, if anyone does have any of these parts that don't have a # in front of them, tell me. (# means I have/bought it already)
wll im trying to sell it for 60 shipped but but people just dont have the money
More questions...
Does the stock EVO8 BOV have trouble at low psi (what is considered acceptable for the BOV to function correctly?), causing compressor surge...if so, how do I detect that, stalling? flames coming from the compressor?
Are ARP headstuds (or any good headstuds) necessary at 5-7 psi?
How heavy was the head when you removed it to replace them, and can I pick it up with just a buddy (no engine "lift")?
Does the stock EVO8 BOV have trouble at low psi (what is considered acceptable for the BOV to function correctly?), causing compressor surge...if so, how do I detect that, stalling? flames coming from the compressor?
Are ARP headstuds (or any good headstuds) necessary at 5-7 psi?
How heavy was the head when you removed it to replace them, and can I pick it up with just a buddy (no engine "lift")?
More questions...
Does the stock EVO8 BOV have trouble at low psi (what is considered acceptable for the BOV to function correctly?), causing compressor surge...if so, how do I detect that, stalling? flames coming from the compressor?
Are ARP headstuds (or any good headstuds) necessary at 5-7 psi?
How heavy was the head when you removed it to replace them, and can I pick it up with just a buddy (no engine "lift")?
Does the stock EVO8 BOV have trouble at low psi (what is considered acceptable for the BOV to function correctly?), causing compressor surge...if so, how do I detect that, stalling? flames coming from the compressor?
Are ARP headstuds (or any good headstuds) necessary at 5-7 psi?
How heavy was the head when you removed it to replace them, and can I pick it up with just a buddy (no engine "lift")?
ARP headstuds are insurance for your motor and cost less than another motor. The cylinder head is not heavy at all. It can be removed in a driveway with basic hand tools.
Compressor surge is caused when a BOV doesn't open or doesn't open quick enough to vent the excess pressure in the intake tract. What you're referring to is how the Evo BOV "leaks" a big of pressure at partial boost. This is how the valve was intended to function and why alot of Evo owners go with an aftermarket BOV when they aren't recirculating back into the intake.
ARP headstuds are insurance for your motor and cost less than another motor. The cylinder head is not heavy at all. It can be removed in a driveway with basic hand tools.
ARP headstuds are insurance for your motor and cost less than another motor. The cylinder head is not heavy at all. It can be removed in a driveway with basic hand tools.
As far as compressor surge, from what I can tell it's pressure staying in the pressurized side of the valve, and not flowing over to the "pre-turbo" side. This happens because the bov is crap? leaking actually sounds "safer" then compressor surge, if they are the opposites of each other. What am I missing, lol.
I talked to my buddy, and he's willing to help replace them. I also talked to a couple people though, and they basically laughed when I said "7psi, new headbolts or headstuds?" all saying, you will break something else first. So, still up in the air on this one I guess.
As far as compressor surge, from what I can tell it's pressure staying in the pressurized side of the valve, and not flowing over to the "pre-turbo" side. This happens because the bov is crap? leaking actually sounds "safer" then compressor surge, if they are the opposites of each other. What am I missing, lol.
As far as compressor surge, from what I can tell it's pressure staying in the pressurized side of the valve, and not flowing over to the "pre-turbo" side. This happens because the bov is crap? leaking actually sounds "safer" then compressor surge, if they are the opposites of each other. What am I missing, lol.
You are correct with your description of compressor surge. It doesn't only happen from cheap BOVs, but also if the spring in the BOV is set too tight to where the pressure in the intake tract isn't enough to push the spring in the valve open. The "leaking" aspect of the Evo BOV is part of their design since they are recirculated from the factory.
just bending rods and rod bearings goin bad..






