I am confused about the price? Is something like this really $400? Or is that like a deposit?

 

It's really 400, and then if you return your stock intake manifold you get 100 dollars back.

 

Honestly this looks very cool but obviously before doing this I would already want other mods done right? I guess, lightened pulley, headers, exhaust, piggyback, fuel rail and injectors?

Also can someone explain to me about how I would reroute my current intake to attach to the y-pipe? I guess with the y-pipe it is assumed this could run on a stock ECU since you will still be able to retain your stock MAF

Sorry for being a little dumb about this but I read all of the posts and just want further clarification.

THANKS

 

The lightened pully only frees up about 3-5whp and lets you rev more quickly. Headers extract exhaust gases more quickly and efficently, same goes with all other exhaust mods. RRM's piggyback only tunes your air fuel ratio. The larger fuel rail only puts more fuel on the rail, to supposedly make sure you have more fuel when you need it. The Injectors allow for a larger amount of fuel to be dumped into each cylinder for combustion.

So, while those mods would help, overall, they are not a prerequiste to getting a higher flowing intake manifold. In short, there is no chicken there is no egg... you don't need to do one before the other.

Because you retain the MAF, the sensor that sends the signal to the ECU to tell it what the amount of air is comming in, the ECU will "attempt" to maintain the same stock air fuel ratio. As aformentioned, getting some kind of fuel managment is necessary to extract the best gains out of any breathing mod. This is more true for turbo guys but still a huge factor for us NA guys.

Terms such as Rich and Lean are used to describe the amount of fuel being consumed. If you are Rich you are running too much fuel. If you are Lean you are running too little. Either can lead to a bad end. The Stock ECU tunes for a relitive safe zone so you shouldn't experience detonation or anyother issues*** (this is speculation, I've had a ported Mirage intake for some time now and have had no issues running the stock ECU and am not tuned yet)

Now just because I'm sick'n tired of reading so much about Piggy this and Piggy that...

Tuning:
You will not see great gains until you tune. RRM's piggyback and their base map is good to a point, but you have to realize that your car is as different from my car as his or anyone elses. A custom tune is best. RRM provides a good generic base for standerd bolt ons. They didn't tune the Piggy back for major mods, or at least to my knowledge.

SAFC-II:
Good for a custom tune. Gives you a nice readout, displaying all sorts of cool info. And I got one that's Black!

ECU Flash:
We've been discussing this for a few weeks now in the tuning section. There is a cord that you can buy for a minimal price of 95.00. It connects to your laptop and you can datalog, meaning you can store data about rev, shifts, airfuel etc. It allows tuning all all spectrums of the powerband like the pros do for the EVOs. However, you will only be able to flash your ECU about 50 times before it goes **** up. This promises to be the best method for tuning I've seen and most cost effective... if you know what you are doing.

Stand alone:
This takes the place of your ECU and you have to make every adjustment yourself. From what I understand it is the most investment, both in time and money. You're better off getting one of the other mentioned tuning solutions over this one.

Wideband O2:
You're going to need to see what your Air Fuel ratio is. To do that you need an O2 sensor. A Narrowband allows you to see limited information and doesn't give you a specific ratio. A wideband lets you see all of the info you need to tune safely. You will also need to add an additional O2 bung to after your first cat to put in an O2.

If I got anything wrong someone please correct me. If you wish to read more about this stuff it's all in the tuning sections here on EvoM.

Fox

 

My bad, it comes with a jet coated fuel rail. But you can get it ported before install.

 

It's already bored. Damn drucea, sometimes I just want to smack you.

 

http://*********.vstore.ca/product_i...subishi-mirage
The intake looks like it's going to sit on top of the header... looks like there's going to be alot of hot air to be taken in, unless you have a header heat shield and intake heat shield.

 

So wait... who's going to be the guinea pig, I mean tester, on the stage 3? I know its been mentioned before but the Stage 2 is what many have already done: 4g93 IM ported, bored throttle body and bored fuel rail. (And the gains on that have many testimonials giving that the thumbs up)

It's the stage three that needs to be seen... Although there might be some Mirages out there with this stage three. Screw this, I'm going to the Mirage board to see if any of them have this set up and what they think.

Fox

 

looks like you could just run a pipe from there to the side or something.

This may have been asked already but how would you hook up the throttle cable? Never mind, it looks like they already have it hooked up.

 

Well uh, excuse me. I hadn't seen anywhere it said it was already bored. And someone else asked if you would need a bored fuel rail to support this intake.

 

I want. I need. I have no $ to spare.

 

Yeah i'd love to have one, just run a pipe to the side where the intake already is on our cars or possibly a cold-air. but either stage would be fine w me :P i'm soo broke and cheap at the moment, any type of mod would help me :P

 

whoever has money needs to buy this and tell us the results.
also someone needs to buy the quad throttle body from RPW, because i think im gonna get one next year instead of going turbo (keep my warranty)
and i want to see some results.

 

I doubt anyone on here will be getting the quad throttle bodies. They are expensive and most would rather turbo. But it would be cool to see.

 

next summer im gonna give it a bash, im gonna try and put about $3-4k into my car, i would go turbo but i've only had the car a couple of months and i got a 2 year warranty on it.
So im just gonna get a quad throttle body, whole new exhaust and new suspension, then do a few bolt ons and some cosmetic stuff