I have had my hand in a lot of unique projects. None of them involved making a fwd car awd ( I might make my 510 4g63 powered and awd down the road ). In short realisticly with my experience.................................get an evo................really.

 

actually the lancer DOES have the tunnel for the drive axle...

 

Thats right - There are AWD normal lancers from factory.

 

Dem_z: If I lost my cool, I'd lose the chance to really learn anything, I'm trying to respect the fact that though we disagree, most people here have much more experience than I do, but I'm the kind of person who has a hard time taking someone's word for things. I need facts, evidence, explanations, and that can cause me to be very argumentative, as we've seen with me arguing the number of welds in the Evo. lol
I do know that auto's have gearing limitations, it just seems a logical step since all of the JDM AWD cedias are automatic(2007, I dunno about '00-'06), it seems unlikely I'd find a manual tranny that'd fit as easily. Granted most manuals are physically smaller, but I'm takling in terms of bolting to the motor. I also still haven't been able to find whether the current AWD auto tranny in Cedia's will work with a 4G94.
Evo's do have vast differences from lancers, but they have vast similarities as well. It just depends on what part of the two cars you're looking at.
Thanks for the advice, and I do know that most people here have worked on lancers longer than me, and have better working knowledge of the cars.
Seclusioned: That's cool, I'll need to talk to my local dealership then, see what they know about it. Granted, my dealership can't tell the difference between an ES and Ralliart air scoop, so I dunno. I wouldn't be concerned with warranties, cause mine have all ran out.
petey pab: Really? I'm gonna have to look and see for myself... I need a good underbody pic of the AWD Cedia to put side by side with one of a US Lancer ES. I think that'd help me get a better appreciation of the differences and just how difficult if possible this is.
Diavlo: Yes there are, just not in the US yet('08 ralliart? I've heard rumors). Actually, as far as I've found so far, Japan is the only country that got the AWD option, at least for 2007.

 

There was a guy on e-bay oct 2006 that bought 2002 lancer and then bought all the evo drivetrain and installed it. The car was not quite running but I taked with him on the phone and it just needed minor things done to make it a running car. he had to sell it because he was relocating. He was asking 6500 for the project . He was pretty excited about the sleeper effect the car would have. I almost bought the car to finish and resell but thought resale would be poor. When done all you really have is an evo with narrow fenders, ugly hood, and a non welded chassis. I dont see the point in doing a conversion like this unless you are going to gain something significant like big weight savings. In this case there would be none.

 

That's actually very interesting.


Evo's use a more complicated drive system than the Cedia... I know people say there are no Active Yaw Evo's in the US, but I've actually seen a couple with them... They exist.. And they're awesome.

Even w/o yaw, the cedia's auto will probably be open diff in the front and closed dif on the backs. It would be easier if you do a complete evolution swap. Crashed evo's sell for stupid cheap, and you can part them out pretty easily. But this route will not be more cost effective than a complete used evo.

You could go custom on the lsd's, and swap the cedia's.... It being almost identical to the lancer. But it might just be easier importing / modding a complete cedia from the phillipines (they're left hand drive too).

 

I hate to be rude but wouldn't your time and effort to research be better spent on the phone with shops and dealerships to see if it could be done? Who better than a dealer to get the information if the channels are there for the drive train? Who better than a shop to quote you the cost.

If it is what you really want to do then I think you are honestly wasting your time on this forum and need to spend some time working with people that will actually do the work for you.

With that said if money is not an object for you drop off your car with me next thursday and bring me about 200,000 USD cash and I'm sure I could get it done for you.

 

well, as i typed that post i went from my computer to under my car about three times to make sure. ill try and get a pic later today. if someone could post a pic of an evo undercairrage that would be great.
and the reason he wouldnt do that is the fact that most shops as well as dealerships dont know **** about this car. if hes going to get any information its going to be on this site. it is not a very popular platform and there are not a whole lot of options to mod. hell, WORKS is the only shop that even offers a flash i believe, unlike the evo where everyone and their mother can give a flash. just some simple examples though.

 

Petey said it best. The dealerships can only give you info on how many bags of groceries your econobox will hold (and even then they have the wrong info half the time) and there's only one shop you can trust for Lancer info.

I'm sorry, but the basic truth is this - you drive an Evo, the single most popular tuner platform in the world (at the moment). We drive Lancers, one of the least popular platforms. It's different for us. EvoM (formerly Lancerforums, dammit) is the best place to get Lancer info. The people on this board are knowledgeable because they're in there working on their cars. Most shops avoid Lancers and most dealerships just know how to work on them in the traditional, stock situations.

 

Shut the Hell up, seriously.

Maybe he can't afford an Evo. Maybe he can't afford the Evo insurance either. We don't all have as much money as you.

He already has a Lancer (which has ZERO value on trade-in). If he wants to drop 10k making it a really great car, then let him.

 

Here's my advice, think long and hard about why you are thinking of doing this and take all necessary steps to prepare for it before even attempting it. What this means is if you are doing this just to get AWD, there are bette options out there. You could do what Doug did and buy a used subaru (traitor!). In this case insurance would be fine and you'd still have a car you could mod and have fun in without all the hassle of a frankenstein car. If you're doing it to be unique, go nuts if you think uniqueness is worth $10000+. Make sure to talk to your insurance company to see if they'll even cover the car. A lot of people forget about this only to find out after an accident that their insurance company won't cover it. I made damn sure to check with my insurance before I bought a turbo kit and I'm damn happy I did since it turns out my particular company doesn't cover "tuner cars". Luckily for me their sister company does and my premium would be more or less the same. Make sure you find a mechanic who can deal with a frankenstein car, and make sure you have the time and money to deal with the possibility of not having a car for long periods of time.

 

forgot to add the fact that basically the only TWO, count em, TWO shops that know ANYTHING about this car are in separate parts of the world. and seeing as how hes from MO, i doubt a trip to socal or australia would be very feasible.

 

lol at all the people who still say get an evo even though it says in the OP dont say that because I dont care. More power to you if you try to do this. There was an entire evo drivetrain from an 04 in the F/S section for like 6 or 8 k last week, so I think with that, some custom motormounts and axels, you could do it. To be 100 percent honest, you really would be spending about as much as you would to buy an evo, if you really really really want the sleeper look, maybe consider buying an evo, and swapping all the body panels and body kit from a rally art onto the evo? That would probibly be ten times easier and leave you with your sleeper, the body look you like more, and not completly sacrifice realiability.

 

like i dunno if it would work, but wouldnt it be easier to use a current lancer(4g69 - 2.4ltr) turbo that and build it up to say 15 -20 psi which should more more than an evo puts out, then add an awd tranny to that, coz then u end up with more power (2.4 Vs 2)...
but im pretty sure ill get told that the tranny wont link up to it ...

 

Disruptorzero you are a cool cat and didnt break with all this buy a evo stuff. Love the evo but i also dont want a true evo so i just took a car with a evo swap and well i got what i want. Now i also am looking into making my car AWD but i have different but similiar problems as you. Here is a link to my car with pics and the other link leads to a car like mines with AWD and evo swaps.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=252896

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/401787


I drive a 1997 Mirage with a EVO 5 swap. The other link on the page leads to a 2001 Mirage with a EVO swap and AWD convertion. Very interesting a inspiring stuff.

Keep up with the class you represent and well go for what you want. Hey i did and well i take evos and stis out daily but get beat also but its fun lol. Keep us updated.